Losing value too aggressive?

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http://www.boomplayer.com/en/poker-hands/Boom/5601937_F07AAD380C

2nd hand at the table no stats for the other players. flatting for deception
Looking to get paid by AQ AJ but think I was too aggressive.

pokerstars Hand #106181669878: Hold'em No Limit ($0.05/$0.10 USD) -
Table 'Centesima III' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: ($10.69 in chips)
Seat 2: ($12.01 in chips)
Seat 3: ($10 in chips)
Seat 4: V1 ($12.18 in chips)
Seat 5: ($16.84 in chips)
Seat 6: ($12.83 in chips)
Seat 7: V2 ($11.19 in chips)
Seat 8: ($4 in chips)
Seat 9: figaroo2 ($9.64 in chips)
figaroo2: posts small blind $0.05
Audioslave27: posts big blind $0.10
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to figaroo2 [Ac Ks]
V1: raises $0.20 to $0.30
V2 calls $0.30
figaroo2: calls $0.25

*** FLOP *** [As 5c 7c]
figaroo2: checks
V1: bets $0.30
V2 calls $0.30
figaroo2: raises $0.60 to $0.90
V1calls $0.60
V2 calls $0.60
*** TURN *** [As 5c 7c] [4h]
figaroo2: bets $1.80
V1: folds
V2: folds
Uncalled bet ($1.80) returned to figaroo2
figaroo2 collected $3.53 from pot
 
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You could just lead the flop with TPTK rather than x/r. That said, the initial bet is small and gets a caller, so I would raise bigger to give them worse odds for their drawing hands. The turn bet is not huge either. Doesn't seem too aggressive to me except for the x/r. I would just lead for about 3/4 pot.
 
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I think you played it a bit too obvious there, leading out after checkraising the flop.

That 4 isn't helping anybody, I don't mind checking it and letting villain bet. I guess you could be scared of the flush draw...
 
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Pretty normal and definitely not too aggro. Agree that flop x/r is too small vs 2 players and 50% pot on the turn is a bit smaller than I would bet (60-65%).
 
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flatting 'for deception' is a terrible idea at 10nl. sqz that shit, you do not wanna play AK OOP 3 way.

agree that as played, you should lead flop for like 75%. turn is a total brick, im again betting like 65-70% here [player dependent obv]. as played, your c/r should be a fair bit bigger IMO. id be c/ring to btwn $1.65 and $2.00- all draws are gunna call you so you may as well pump it. on safe rivers, go like 60-80% vs fish, and bet/fold like 45-55% vs regs.

checking turn as suggested by haihai is a terrible idea. bet to charge for draws and get value from all the other garbage that will still call a sizeable bet here.

cliffs; this isnt too aggro at all. if anything its too weak thereby losing value. betbetbetbetbet!
 
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Interesting views thank you. Jon A is pretty blunt about betting big for value at these stakes so the reraise was probably too small.
I agree that generally squeezing here is good but personally I'd like to know a little more about the other players before I do that. First couple of hands at the table I like to check raise if I can it gets them worried about you from the off.
I think what this hand actually shows is I could have pulled off this play with any two cards and shows the value of showing aggression and then leading out on the turn.
The flop is about as good as it can be for tptk and it feels like I left value on the table, perhaps leading out might have been better. In any case if either opponent had an ace or a flush draw they would likely have called the turn. In hindsight I just dont think there was any more to be won here.
 
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I would have played that the exact same way. Generally speaking your hand is not that strong against two other players. I would assume one is chasing the flush. I think here you make them pay to draw and hope that one takes the chance and pays to see the last card.
 
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As played if fine. The last thing you want is to have the turn check around and then the 6c peel the river lol Then you are check folding almost always. I like the turn lead, pot is already pretty decent and you don't want to give off a free card.
 
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