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Wondering how you guys play different live vs. online if you do at all.
I play way tighter online than in person cause in person you can get
better reads on people.
what do you guys do?
 
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If you are paying "income per hour", you have to remember that live poker plays a whole lot slower than the online version, and you can only play one table at a time. I can see plenty of people in a casino that aren't well suited to play live, because they are unable to handle what they consider boring dead time between hands.

I do much better live than online, I think because I get a better feel for people by all of their moves and what they are actually doing at the table. Are they really paying attention, or at they chatting with someone at the rail? Are they still babbling about the last hand, or what?

Also, I find that a lot of table talk can tell you a bunch about people. I had one the other night where one player made a fairly bad all in move, got called, busted out, and left the table. Listening to how the other players described his move, and what they would have done, and looking at who got involved in that discussion and who didn't tells you some stuff. Over time, it's that collection of information that is pretty important.

That's just my view... I do prefer a live game and I am lucky enough to have it about an hour away from home.
 
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One hand live i played, the biggest chipstack on the table bullied me out of the pot. The guy next to him said i bet you didn't have anything! to the other guy.

I was waiting for him to play in the same pot and try to bluff me.... ofc he tried to bluff me and he was really annoyed since a pocket 4s only beat him :)
Unusual betsizing as well really gave himself away.
 
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Yes playing live is a lot different IMO because you have so much more information to base decisions on...I have more success live and I am lucky to live 45 minutes from 5 casinos...I do enjoy the faster pace of online as well as multi tabling...
 
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I enjoy a live game much better than online. I honestly think I just enjoy the slower pace and there is less nitty/strong players live around where i live vs players online.
 
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Wish I could play live...The one casino we have in our country doesn't even do the annual tourney anymore. The payers were so exquisitely stupid though, game moved at 5 hands per hour and with the turbo structure, I'm not really missing it lol.

Anyone here played in Macau b4? Player pool there?
 
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It takes some time to play Live MTT because theres no time lilit to make a decision. We can take time to look our opponet to find some gap to make a move. Online is always a problem in the beggining we have all tose all in's to grab chips to take lead of the tourney some nuts some donkeys even cows and bulls players some more studid then others as fast as blinds increase.
 
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Wish I could play live...The one casino we have in our country doesn't even do the annual tourney anymore. The payers were so exquisitely stupid though, game moved at 5 hands per hour and with the turbo structure, I'm not really missing it lol.

Anyone here played in Macau b4? Player pool there?

macau is my usual haunt these days (going tomorrow, I think). Because of weird laws regarding the way licenses are handed out (number of tables, without weighting) most of the casinos don't have poker because the rake is too small. However, there is always a good undercurrent, and the places that do have live poker (such as Wynn, Starworld, Venetian) generally have a good mix of players. The downside is that the cheapest tables are 25/50 and Wynn often starts at 50/100 (hong kong dollars, divide by 7.5 or so if you need to convert).

It's a hard place to play as well because it is VERY multilingual, at least two versions of Chinese plus english, and often Korean or Japanese in the mix as well. Makes for some fun sometimes trying to figure out what all is going on.
 
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macau is my usual haunt these days (going tomorrow, I think). Because of weird laws regarding the way licenses are handed out (number of tables, without weighting) most of the casinos don't have poker because the rake is too small. However, there is always a good undercurrent, and the places that do have live poker (such as Wynn, Starworld, Venetian) generally have a good mix of players. The downside is that the cheapest tables are 25/50 and Wynn often starts at 50/100 (hong kong dollars, divide by 7.5 or so if you need to convert).

It's a hard place to play as well because it is VERY multilingual, at least two versions of Chinese plus english, and often Korean or Japanese in the mix as well. Makes for some fun sometimes trying to figure out what all is going on.

Language is no issue, I can speak and understand Cantonese.
Wow the limits though, thought I saw 10/25 on their ads. Still better than S'pore.
 
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I have not seen a 10/15 in ages, they use to have that at the Grand Lisboa. But that has been a couple of years now, it's all gone.

The problem is that the casinos are licensed a number of tables, and they make way more on baccarat tables than poker tables. Since they can't up the rake percentage, instead they shorten the number of tables and raise the lowest levels. I honestly don't know of any place doing 10/25 anymore, it's just not financially viable, and the 25/50 tables are reasonably active, even on a week night you will line up and wait an hour or more for a spot. Weekends are pretty much 'forget about it", I have seen Wynn with only 50/100 tables and a line up of 30 or more players waiting.

Pro tip: If you speak cantonese (or at least understand it) but are non-Asian, don't let anyone know. Speak english and just listen... you can learn a lot when the other players don't realize that you understand them.
 
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Playing live is better but must play tighter because say playing 1 2 nl might cost ya 12 to 15 or more to c the flop while usually on line playing they 3 bet raise ,so its cheaper to play online.
 
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I have not seen a 10/15 in ages, they use to have that at the Grand Lisboa. But that has been a couple of years now, it's all gone.

The problem is that the casinos are licensed a number of tables, and they make way more on baccarat tables than poker tables. Since they can't up the rake percentage, instead they shorten the number of tables and raise the lowest levels. I honestly don't know of any place doing 10/25 anymore, it's just not financially viable, and the 25/50 tables are reasonably active, even on a week night you will line up and wait an hour or more for a spot. Weekends are pretty much 'forget about it", I have seen Wynn with only 50/100 tables and a line up of 30 or more players waiting.

Pro tip: If you speak cantonese (or at least understand it) but are non-Asian, don't let anyone know. Speak english and just listen... you can learn a lot when the other players don't realize that you understand them.

Nope I'm Asian... with slitty eyes included
 
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Online is rigged. No matter what I do, what cards I get, etc I can't get past $X online. Every time I get to about the same $ I get bad beats & such galore & all the way back down to start. I'm playing w/house money so whatever, but still ticks me off. Once this $ is gone I am not depositng any of my money ever again
 
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I play close to the same in either environment, but live I feel I can play a more psychological meta game than when I am playing 6 tables. Online I have to use stats, which while useful, works both ways. Live no one has an exact history of my play with them, so I can manipulate people easier. I am also more likely to target players in a live game because at the low stakes I play most people really suck and the biggest suckers stand out. They say things like "All insh, I haves the doluble nutsshh!"
 
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