Live game/correct play?

I've been at this table for a few hours and have a decent read on all the players.

Its 2/4 NL game and there are 4 limpers. I raise to 20$ from the blinds with AsTd. I have 2 callers, one from MP and the button.

Flop comes 38T all spades. I Cbet for 45$, MP calls, button folds.

Turn is Kh, i fire 70$ into the pot the guy moves allin for about 35$ more.

I call and lose.

My question is, Did I play this too aggressive? should I have let that K slow me down out of position? My read on him was that he had 2 overs with a spade or perhaps an overpair. A flush was a possibility but very slim. I think he would have raised me on the turn had he hit the flush.

What should I have done differently? Check-raise the flop? Move allin on the turn? check the turn and hope to get a free river?

Thanks in advance

raise more pre. Bet more on the flop, easy to shove the turn.

rssurfer54 said:

raise more pre. Bet more on the flop, easy to shove the turn.

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I don't know i would have gotten a caller if I raised more. Perhaps 25$ PFR?

I bet 2/3 of the pot should I have made it a pot sized bet? I was thinking I kinda want a caller on the flop with TPTK and Nut flush draw. Why is this not the case?

A turn shove makes sense. Perhaps i should have gone allin and that might have made him think his K was no good.


Thanks

Just me - but I am checking that K unless I already made my mind up I'm going all the way on the flush draw. Did you?

Let me guess - he had K of spades?

ShaggyB said:

I don't know i would have gotten a caller if I raised more. Perhaps 25$ PFR?

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There is nothing wrong with taking it down preflop. AT is not the strongest hand so taking it down preflop would almost be preferable.

MediaBLITZ said:

Just me - but I am checking that K unless I already made my mind up I'm going all the way on the flush draw. Did you?

Let me guess - he had K of spades?

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I thought about checking that king. My thought process was like this, oh crap an overcard. Then i was like well, its more likely he doesnt have that card vs having it. I've already represented huge strength and to check on that will indicate that I'm scared of that K and even if he didn't have it, if he fired out I'd have to consider a fold. If I continued to fire into that K then I have outs still and he might fold it anyway even if he does have the K.

So I elected to fire a second bullet based on that.

He actually had KJo with the J of spades. I think his call on the flop was a bad one as I was light years ahead of him. The turn is where I question my play.

Honestly I think your play was viable - just didn't work this time. I certainly would have considered barreling through the hand with the nut flush draw and top pair. I think you have to think about it. But what I am wondering is if you ever got an opportunity to get more information out of the guy - for instance by checking and letting him take the lead. I do like the aggression and putting the pressure on him, but sometimes you end up still knowing nothing. The K on th turn had to be respected because all you know at that point is he probably has high cards with a possible flush draw (or he would have been gone). Basically it was just the cards going from your top pair draw to his top pair draw. Maybe you check raise him and he becomes convinced you have the flush - but I'm not saying that's the best play either.

rssurfer54 said:

raise more pre. Bet more on the flop, easy to shove the turn.

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+1. raising to 5bb oop with 4 limpers in the pot is really terribly bad.

ShaggyB said:

I don't know i would have gotten a caller if I raised more. Perhaps 25$ PFR?

I bet 2/3 of the pot should I have made it a pot sized bet? I was thinking I kinda want a caller on the flop with TPTK and Nut flush draw. Why is this not the case?

A turn shove makes sense. Perhaps i should have gone allin and that might have made him think his K was no good.


Thanks

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Who cares if you don't get a caller? 4 free bb from some limping idiots.

If I can add, you bet 45 into 76+, which is not 2/3.

From the blind I wouldn't even raise preflop. The blinds are early position and A10 isn't cutting for me. Play those limpers when you have position on them. It will make it a lot easier on your self.

Looks like you commited yourself to the pot,

Top pair Top kicker, Flush draw, yeah, still, id have to say pot size bet on the flop for me.