Originally Posted by damours21
if there is 4 or 5 people that all limped in front of you then your getting the right odds to call. i play 5nl rush it works out a decent amount cuz other limpers have small pp's most of time and if they hit their set they will stack off even with 3 to a flush out there
If they flop a set and you flop a flush, they're still like 35% to win.
If they flop a set and you flop four to a flush they're ~35% to make a full house, and you're ~35% to make a flush.
If they flop middle set and you flop bottom pair and top pair, you are stacking off and only have 9% or so to make the winning fullhouse.
This hand gains a lot of equity when the flop comes with top pair and four to a flush, but I never want to run into a set on the flop ever. If I have Ah3h and my opponent has AdKd and the flop comes As9h5h, and we stack off on this street, I still have my nine cards to draw to a flush, and my three remaining threes to hit, not to mention a running straight, which just guestimating would put me somewhere at a little better than a coinflip to get there, providing I don't get counterfeitted or my opponent doesn't improve to top two.
All these hands are coming from behind, except the flopped flush which isn't going to get action, barring high PP's out of position, sets (which are very live) and maybe the occaisonal misplayed two pair.
Limping with AXs and flopping top two pair or the nut flush = no action (as you hold all the cards that are worth calling a bet with) and your villain(s) don't, because the flop hit you, not them.
On the flip-side, I have seen a lot of fair pots dragged in in some interesting 3-way flopped flushes (the odds of that are SLIM!), but overall your action is too likely to be dead on a hand that you come up on.
So much so that you won't get called by somebody you're not ahead of, and even then, they're still very, very live (barring a flopped flush where they have something like one pair, a smaller flush with no straight flush draw, etc, or your ace pairs killing their pocket kings or whatever...)
Overall I'd say it's a losing move to limp with this hand. If you want to raise with it from position, then c-bet with it and try to win the pot before showdown. If you ever get looked up your table image is going to take a dive, so keep that in mind too.