absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
Are they buying in short or just got pushed down to short? Either way they are fish, but that is a big determination regardless of how many BB's. Check their VPIP/PFR. If they are ~10/10 or so which I see often, then they will probably be on TT+, AK. Better off just folding anything that isn't beating that range(you know what that means).
If they just been spazzy as hell, anything over like 40/30 then there is a good chance that they could just have two paint cards, you see that often. I wouldn't take into consideration that they are in a hurry to leave the game because that doesn't play into this at all unless they said in the chat something like they are leaving in 10 minutes.
If they just been spazzy as hell, anything over like 40/30 then there is a good chance that they could just have two paint cards, you see that often. I wouldn't take into consideration that they are in a hurry to leave the game because that doesn't play into this at all unless they said in the chat something like they are leaving in 10 minutes.
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fx20736
Legend
Silver Level
Somebody who open shoves with 50 BBs is probably in a hurry to leave the game, so any two cards
not necessarily true. At the micros there are lots of 5/5 guys who play a 40bb auto top up game and who wait got JJ+, AK and just shove.
DetroitJimmy
Legend
Silver Level
Somebody who open shoves with 50 BBs is probably in a hurry to leave the game, so any two cards
If they are gonna leave they can just leave, right?
absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
Nope, the only way you can leave the table is by shoving all-in
He probably thinks that this is the reason because of short-stackers that hit and run.
LuckyChippy
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
Nash calculations and other ICM theories apply for tournaments.
LuckyChippy
Cardschat Elite
Silver Level
Obv, but when we're talking 20bb shoving surely nash counts?
GotaLovePoke
Rock Star
Silver Level
Yes and no luckychippy, it will apply for some one like phil helmuth who considers his cash games like mini tournaments, but won't apply for standart shortstackers who join the table. Shortstackers are trying to make money out of the people who uses those probabilities into calling small BB stacks. Expect their range to be tighter than yours.
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Jarod1231
Visionary
Silver Level
Somebody who open shoves with 50 BBs is probably in a hurry to leave the game, so any two cards
I open shove AA with 50bb sometimes... because people wont put you on such a strong hand
absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
Unless you have multiple complete calling stations at your table, doing this drops your value that you're getting for AA. If you just make standard raises, you will still get those fish to call and possibly put more money in the pot once they carry on the hand. Open shoving AA is basically a cowards way to play it. I've seen people on here say that they do it because they don't want some fish to call and then out flop them... I won't even go into how stupid that statement is, but the fact is you need to bet to get value, and open shoving AA does not get any value.
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squiffy
Rising Star
Bronze Level
They could, but if they are massively on tilt then they are obligated to blow their whole stack before they go.