Limit Games = Less Strategy/Skill?

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Hey everyone,

What is your take on the title? What sort of constructive comments do you have about Limit poker games like Stud, Omaha, and Hold'Em? How would you respond to the following statements?

1) In Limit games there's no real way to get your opponents to fold.

2) There is less strategy/skill involved in Limit games because players are going to call no matter what you do.

3) Limiting the bet sizes encourages more players to stay in the hand. This makes it so that the pot builds up to sizes where players almost always have the correct pot odds to call the relatively small bets involved with each round.
 
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I personally play a lot of limit due to the constant action. For limit it's a lot easier to sneak in hands because of the variance involved. I wouldn't say its less
strategy due to the fact you have to read the table and see what you can get away with. The skill is solely based on how the table reacts. There has been times when the limit table is a lot tougher than the NLH tables at my regular spot. You can not bluff as often in limit due to players sticking around more often with less than quality cards, but why would you when you are almost ALWAYS going to generate some form of action. Bluff less and play more open than you would in NLH.
 
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I personally don't like limit games. I wouldn't still say that being a profitable limit poker player requires less skill or strategy than in no limit games. The playing strategy of limit is just a complete different as bluffing bigger pots is almost impossible.
 
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Thank you both for the responses.

I really like the format of Stud and Omaha, but I am have difficulties with the limit format. At least in Omaha there are usually Pot Limit options (which isn't as restrictive), but I've never seen anything but limit in Stud.

I wish there was a PL variation of Stud at the sites I use. That seems like it would be an extremely fun way to poker.
 
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I would say about statements this way:

1. Making opponent to fold more difficult, but there are some ways to do this in certain situations. For example you can image slowplay.

2. Most of this players is limpers and in most situations they lost pots. I think in limit holdem requests more skill for read enemy hends.

3. This is true, but ussialy in limit holdem is a few people in the pot, who bets/raises every betting round.

Limit holdem (or other types of poker) is good to newbie or for people, who have low cash.
 
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If you want to be a winning limit player you'd better know the odds.
 
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I used to play NL Hold'em and PL Omaha. And I don't like other variants.
Hold'em give less possibilities, than it's great to play it without limits, when PLO is good to play slowly because you never know when you enemy hit a straight or a set to beat you're two pairs
 
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I used to play NL Hold'em and PL Omaha. And I don't like other variants.
Hold'em give less possibilities, than it's great to play it without limits, when PLO is good to play slowly because you never know when you enemy hit a straight or a set to beat you're two pairs


I don't play a lot of Omaha, but I'd have to imagine 2 pair being a pretty weak hand overall yea? There's got to be more straights, 3-of-a-kind, and full houses on a typical basis.
 
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1) In Limit games there's no real way to get your opponents to fold.

Not true, however this complaint is most common from those who don't understand where the money comes from in limit. Let's say we have pocket aces, if 5 or 6 folks call our preflop raise and call all streets down, we'll only win something like 30% of the time. But that's phenomenal! We're getting between 5 and 6:1 as a little worse than 2:1 dog.

You can make opponents fold, generally you need a better understanding of players styles, relative position, and finding spots to force players to call two bets cold, or raising on fourth street when bets double to force incorrect odds.

2) There is less strategy/skill involved in Limit games because players are going to call no matter what you do.

See above

3) Limiting the bet sizes encourages more players to stay in the hand. This makes it so that the pot builds up to sizes where players almost always have the correct pot odds to call the relatively small bets involved with each round.

Also already covered I think. Sometimes, yes, they will be correct to call. That's part of the game, but as stated you have tools to combat this.
 
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Limit requires a different skill set than NL. NLHE certainly requires more balls than LHE.

Might have been Doyle who said "Successful Limit HE is a skill, successful NLHE is an art!"
 
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