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jeffred1111
Visionary
Silver Level
Let's say I'm at a loosish table of .5/1 FR on PS (quite detailed scenario...). I look at 88 in the BB and there was two EP limpers who are loose, but not fishy loose. Their range are thus quite broad, but do not include stupid crap like Q5o: we see more KQo, Axs, JTs, smaller PP.
SH, I will pop this mercilessly since their range do include stupid crap such as K7o due to SH being a tad looser usually. FR, I have trouble because, altough I have an equity edge against there two limpers, the structure of the game and the fact they will not fold, gives them good enough odds 100% of the time to peel with their overcards. Example:
I have raised preflop with my 88.
Flop comes 67J two diamonds wich, SHE, is approx the best flop ever barring no overcards since a hand worth playing with a J in it is usually worth a raise. In FR, a good % of time, I c-bet and someone calls, I'm tempted to pitch it on the turn UI or with good odds to redraw (turn 4 for example) because we are getting valueowned a lot by c/c and b/f opens us up to being exploitable (we bloat the pot and give it away 6-7 times out of 8. What was a good hand with good implied odds preflop has become a nightmare with huge reverse implied odds since EP are right in peeling and there's nothing I can do about it.
So, would it be better to pass up on the small equity edge we have preflop and just play for set value ?
Same thing goes for small pp calling a raise in med. position. The game plays tight enough that unless you flop a set, you are toast against 2-3 players, but reppoping with 88 is probably spew since we risk that it gets capped HU and we are a huge dog or slight favourite and need to spike to win.
So many questions !
SH, I will pop this mercilessly since their range do include stupid crap such as K7o due to SH being a tad looser usually. FR, I have trouble because, altough I have an equity edge against there two limpers, the structure of the game and the fact they will not fold, gives them good enough odds 100% of the time to peel with their overcards. Example:
I have raised preflop with my 88.
Flop comes 67J two diamonds wich, SHE, is approx the best flop ever barring no overcards since a hand worth playing with a J in it is usually worth a raise. In FR, a good % of time, I c-bet and someone calls, I'm tempted to pitch it on the turn UI or with good odds to redraw (turn 4 for example) because we are getting valueowned a lot by c/c and b/f opens us up to being exploitable (we bloat the pot and give it away 6-7 times out of 8. What was a good hand with good implied odds preflop has become a nightmare with huge reverse implied odds since EP are right in peeling and there's nothing I can do about it.
So, would it be better to pass up on the small equity edge we have preflop and just play for set value ?
Same thing goes for small pp calling a raise in med. position. The game plays tight enough that unless you flop a set, you are toast against 2-3 players, but reppoping with 88 is probably spew since we risk that it gets capped HU and we are a huge dog or slight favourite and need to spike to win.
So many questions !