Leaving the table.

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For some time I have been obsessed with this aspect of psychology related to poker.

Unfortunately, I suffer every day, if I have a positive session (1 or 2 boxes up) I want to close, On the other stage, if I am losing,
I am not able to close, even after the 60 min.

But in the case of winning, I always think, why not close and go with a good taste? Why risk losing the earned?

I know that this has to do with the short-term mentality, and it should not influence me, and I should think only in the long term,
and be clear that the way I finish a session should not be influential for my game, but unfortunately, despite knowing the theory, I can not put it into practice.

Tips? Advices? Recommendations?:confused:
 
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I've run into this phenomenon too.

For me, usually it means I am playing above my bankroll if I want to book a win or find myself chasing my losses.

I don't play for a living and lately I am able to have just as good a time on a $0.02/$0.05 table as I would on a $2.5/$5 table and instead of risking $500 I'm risking $5.

If I had a big enough bankroll that losing (or winning) $500 a few times a session wouldn't bother me I'd play there instead.

Playing at stakes where I don't have to worry about the results seems to help me.

Good luck to you! :D
 
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Actually unlike in tournaments, in cash games there is a right time to leave the table.

If there is another big stack on the table, even with aces I fold and get out of that table I am not joking.

I want to keep the table such that the maximum I can lose is the buy-in I come in with (which is the maximum always as this is good BRM). If you have another bigstack on the table it just takes one cooler hand or bad beat to make all your session count for nothing. If you want to make more per hour, go to higher stakes but do not stay at a low stake table with a massive stack if there's someone else who can knock you down past your original buyin x2. It's that simple really.

Leaving is not at all a bad strategy, it's very good bankroll management.
 
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Know when to leave.. what to start with at micro

As others have stated, : Leaving the table is not always wrong. It's you, your game, your comfort level. Poker is hard enough when you do feel comfortable. Discomfort for me is being surrounded by bigger stacks that love to bully.

Playing micro, $0.02/$0.05 table, if you put down less than a buck, it seems like the sharks love to shove their stack at you right off the bat, to make you fold, so they can have a good laugh. What do others think is a decent amount to put down, at micro, to prevent bullying, if that can be done.
 
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I think it's important to to realize you're stack size is only relative to the next biggest stack.

You may be up $2000 on 1/2...but if the next biggest stack is 200...then you've only got 100BB at risk.

Set a stop loss at how many BB you're willing to lose back.

If you lose desire to play then just BOOK THE WIN
 
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Starting with Micro is the way to go. I have to fight myself to not want to go to higher stakes bc for me that would be a big mistake.
 
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You need to leave the table after doubling or when fish is out
 
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This is the number one goal of the game. Knowing when to stop the game. Having losses or having profits it is critical to know when to leave the game. It is a personal matter of shelf knowledge. You can study your sequence of profits and losses and calculate when the game will not change any more.
 
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Hello, hurtadoak! I think, You don't need to disappointed especially, because this problem, by my opinion, has about more players, including and Me...
So Human is created! In this not simple case difficult to advise anything, because we are absolutely different!.. Here is necessary gradual, consistent
individual work!
 
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For some time I have been obsessed with this aspect of psychology related to poker.

Unfortunately, I suffer every day, if I have a positive session (1 or 2 boxes up) I want to close, On the other stage, if I am losing,
I am not able to close, even after the 60 min.

But in the case of winning, I always think, why not close and go with a good taste? Why risk losing the earned?

I know that this has to do with the short-term mentality, and it should not influence me, and I should think only in the long term,
and be clear that the way I finish a session should not be influential for my game, but unfortunately, despite knowing the theory, I can not put it into practice.

Tips? Advices? Recommendations?:confused:
Thanks for your post mate. Sometimes we are winning but we are not playing good. On the contrary, sometimes we are losing but we are playing our best game.
This is very frequent subject here in the forum and I love it: tilt and reversed tilt.
Most players talk about tilt as if it happens only when we are losing. Of course, there can be serious long run outs and this can make even the most solid poker player lose its mind. It is rare but it is possible a downswing so huge as of 1 million hands losing!
Most common are bad run outs of 1 thousand hands losing, or 10 thousands hands losing in a roll, which is one of the reasons we must have and keep a strong bankroll management.
We usually tilt for negative things such as a series of bad beats or when we are dealt AA 4 times and lose all of them for any kind of hands. This is the most famous tilt, the negative one.
As you said yourself there is also the positive tilt, when we are winning in an incredible run out and we get scared of losing! So we start to think we should leave the tables before we begin to lose, in spite of we have been playing our ultimate top game!
The only thing that should made us quit and leave the table, no matter if we are winning or losing, is when we have admitted to ourselves we are not well, in spite of results, then we should get out and relax for a relative amount of space and time.
Now, for instance, the last 5 hands I played:
1- HERO goes all-in preflop holding AA and VILLAIN AK, and villain wins the pot
2- Hero shoves the turn having 82% equity with OESD + FD and Villain wins
3- Hero tries to bluff 3 barrels til the river and villain calls
4- Hero floats flop turn and jam the river for bluff and villain calls with third pair
5- Hero is dealt KK in a 3-bet pot and setmines on the turn. Villain setmines AA on the river and takes down the pot

Did we play these hands wrong or these are things that happen in poker every time ? Should we leave the table because of these results? I don’t think so, unless those results have affected our perception and psychological performance!
The same goes for the opposite situation: if you are playing well and winning a lot of pots continue to play for as long as you would have played in spite of results.
 
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the way i work it, if im up , i keep playing , taking breaks every hour or so, if im on the downward trend, i leave and live to play another day.
 
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Some of the answers here make no sense. Quitting just because we are winning is a very short term mentality. If anything we should be more inclined to stay as it probably indicates the table is weak. Similarly when losing we dont necessarily need to stop, we should have more than one buy in for the game assuming we are properly bankrolled. If you are playing cash, one hand today is the same as one hand tomorrow it doesnt really matter if we are up it down over the course of an individual session. For me I leave a table when:

1. The weaker players leave such that my edge/winrate will be small
2. I am not playing my best, e.g. too tired or tilted.
3. I just fancy doing something else
4. There are better tables available and I cant play them all well.
5. Tough regs having position on me and making it difficult for me. Like reason 1 really if my expected win rate will be very low or negative it's best to leave
 
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