KQ in SB with one limper

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Hero completes and BB raises to 5bbs. Late limper folds and Hero calls. Flop is Ks,9h,7s. Hero bets .5 the pot. Turn is 9s and Hero checks. BB shoves with 35 bbs. Good to fold here?
 
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You're good to fold here because you played it incorrectly on the flop. That board is very wet. Betting half the pot at 5.5 BB's isn't going to have any fold equity. It would have been better to check/call the flop or bet harder considering their remaining stack size. There are a lot of cards on the turn and river that scare you so betting out on a flop when 50% of the deck can hit on the turn that makes you want to fold is a bad idea.
 
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No, don't fold. CALL!!!

You're in at 10 (very close,)...BB's already.....

if you started out with only a stack of 11....
call and end your misery.

Because that dude on your left....
with that huge chip stack .....
empowering him to pound that bet with 35x the bb....
just because he's either that stupid or he can afford to......
and not sweat that last bb you're holding as a chip stack because he knows.....
if you fold that one he's got you...
and if you call that one and he loses...he don't care...cuz he's still got that huge chip stack to pound with.....
AND.......because he got you to do one of the other...FOLD OR CALL.....
now he knows....how to get you to do it again.....and now he's....

...totally messing with you at this point because he don't give one hoot if you call or not with your little ole 1 bb left........


BUT.......
if you have more than just that 1 bb left......
repost...

my opinion may change.


I mean......may.
Not will.


OH...one last thing...
next hand you're the button.

(if that means anything)
 
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Not enough info available, How many BBs did you have at the start of the hand and why didn't you 3bet KQ ?
 
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Hero completes and BB raises to 5bbs. Late limper folds and Hero calls. Flop is Ks,9h,7s. Hero bets .5 the pot. Turn is 9s and Hero checks. BB shoves with 35 bbs. Good to fold here?

What is the suit distribution of your hand? How deep effective are you with villain? Why are you leading into the preflop raiser? What stakes are you playing?
 
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Not enough info available, How many BBs did you have at the start of the hand and why didn't you 3bet KQ ?

I decided to just call because the BB raised the preflop out of turn.
 
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What is the suit distribution of your hand? How deep effective are you with villain? Why are you leading into the preflop raiser? What stakes are you playing?

Sorry, I didn't lead, I checked. The stakes are $2-$5 NLH. My stack was 3x his.:alien:
 
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Explain to this dummy.

I decided to just call because the BB raised the preflop out of turn.

Pretend like I'm a 5 year old....and you're teaching me to play Holdem....

explain to me why you said the BB raised the preflop out of turn. :questionm:questionm:questionm:questionm:questionm:questionm:questionm:questionm:questionm
 
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I take it you called from position KQ and B moved.Mistake your call and is unknown what range of hands plays BB to to continue postflop...
 
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I'm a chicken dentist.

Sorry, I didn't lead, I checked. The stakes are $2-$5 NLH. My stack was 3x his.:alien:

I WILL NOW DO SOMETHING THAT I usually refrain from doing out in the open realm of nether-land for the inhabitants so witness......except in curious situations. And I'm curious. :cool:

I will now invoke assumption into this thread......
((it's a tricky little tool that Chicken Dentists use to pull stubborn hens teeth with at times))

SO...I'm assuming when you said "I didn't lead, I checked."...that you're talking about on the Turn card? Right? Maybe? Possibly? (i thunk so)

AND...I'm assuming that you had ..AT LEAST....145 times the BB.....at the START of the hand because you said...
you had 3x's his chipstack..and he's already commited 45x's the BB of his chip stack.....after the turn.


ANYWHOOO.....
utilizing that nifty little emergency hens tooth extractor.......
I think we're getting a really good GRASP on that nasty hens tooth......

now...before we YANK that sucker....

((AND FEEL FREE TO SQUIRM IN MY CHICKEN DENTIST CHAIR NOW...))
(I mean...it's uderstood...that yank'n teeth without deadening the area .....)
(can cause one to squirm....when they're the yankee...and not the yankor)
(so squirming is expected....)
(this Chicken Dentist is use to it...)
(we'll still get to the root....of it)


NOW...
you're sit'n there minding your own busyness.....
you're looking at KQ in the SB....
dude limps into the button position.....
you call the BB....
BB decides he wants best position...(or chips, or something)....
...so donks the pot with a handful of chips....

limper FOLDS THE BUTTON .....((that he'd purchased limping in...?))

and you called the PREFLOP raise with your super duper overpowering chip stack...

THEN....you look down AFTER THE FLOP.....and BEFORE..the bet at the flop...
and you realize......."HEY!!..the most I can lose is 1/3rd my chip stack!!".

And so you check.
(for whatever reason)
(face it..you checked)

THEN...the BeeBee...chunks in another 5 BB's ...(and maybe a 1/2'uh bb)
((i say 5 bb's because that's close.....we're not going to squirm..over a fraction of 1 bb??))
((are we??))

THEN....you said.."screw this guy....let's see another card!!!! I CAN AFFORD IT!!"
So you call the BeeBee because you can afford to, because you've got AT LEAST...
135 bb's left. So what's 10's bb's total in a world full of BB's, and right now..it's my world.

Right?

THEN COMES THE TURN.........

and you...being the hero that you now are...........

you check again to the BB dude.

((keep in mind...you still ain't volunteered up that hens tooth of...what suit that Queen was))
(so..the Chicken Dentist that I am....)
(being a professional hens tooth yanker-outer..)
(i'm reaching down deep into my tool bucket and pulling out ANOTHER....)
(one of those assumption tools...to yank this tooth out with...)

LET'S ASSUME THAT QUEEN'S A SPADE.

can we do that?
being as you ain't volunteering too much?
Can we just go ahead and guess? ((ooops..meant assume))
Let's put you in as best a light as possible here. Let's do that.
Let's say it was a spade. :rolleyes:

ANYWHOOO.....
now you're invested in this hand .6% of your chip stack......(again, close enough)....

you've ck'd to the BB dude...
and the BB dude shoves in 35x's the BB fee....
now ..there's quite a few bb's on the table.....

and you go to thinking....

only 10 (close enough) of them are mine so far........
but man...I'd sure like to have those 56....
... to add to the 135 I've still got.......then I'd have alot of bb's fer sure!!......

and if I call this ....I'll still have at least...100 bb's..even if I do fold the river......

OR..!!!.......
I COULD SHOVE THIS POT...AND LET'S GIT'R DONE!!!

maybe I'll hit that Qs flush, and he won't have the Ace...
and I'll beat those trips that he has...
as long as he doesn''t already have the boat....
and if he does have trips....I could still hit that flush!!.....
and if my 3rd K hits...I'll have trips to his Boat....but i can still fold!!.....

MAN I SHOULD SHOVE!!...
or should i?



((please note at this point...you have yet to say EXACTLY how many chips you both started with....so we're utilizing that Hen's Tooth Yanker to it's fullest right now))
(so....let's assume....the position...)

(we're going to assume again....that the beebee man ain't out of chips yet)
(cuz you ain't coughed that hens tooth up on your own yet...)
(we're going to just use that assume tool again)

BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN!!.....
you realize .....
screw him.....let him have those 12 blinds he just won....I've still got him 3-1 stacked.

AND I'M ON THE BUTTON NEXT HAND!!.....

and then you get this great thought...
man...I know the answer to my own question!!!

I'M FOLDING!!
let him have his little victory...
I'm ready to see my Button cards.
Maybe that guy over there with enough chips to double me up.....
will get in the pot.....
while I still got all these chips....
and the stars will align....if I'm just...patient....THEN I'LL BE A REAL LIFE HERO!!




((what's that?....that queen ain't a spade??))
((WHY THE HELL ARE YOU STILL IN THE HAND??))

((what's that?...))
(( the bb dude's been pulling that crap for the last 4 or 6 hands?...)
(( every since he got to the table!!???...))
((THAT'S HOW HE GOT THOSE CHIPS!!?????))


THEN SHT MAN!!...DONK HISASSSSSSSS......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I mean...that's how you got that huge stack right?


((what's that?.....wrong hens tooth?....))
(well...yuh don't say!)

oh well:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
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