Kings facing all-in raise on river, feels like a bluff, what to do?

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* Sorry I meant all-in raise on turn

1/2c pokerstars 6max zoom

I do not have HUD as its only 2nl, plan on getting one once I reach 10nl

Villian is UTG has $3.08, Im in BB with $5

Villian raises $0.06 All folded to me. My cards are KsKd, naturally raised it to $0.18.

Villian calls.

Flop 8h8d5c
Pot: $0.37

Seems like a very save board, I bet out $0.24 he flat calls.

Turn: Js
Pot: $0.85

Again nothing to be scared of, bet out $0.58 for value and he raises me all in for his remaining $2.67.

Ok, now I started thinking, he unlikely has aces as 99.9% of people would just reraise it preflop. He could have jacks or pocket 5s but its a small part of his range. Also if he did have the fullhouse why reraise me allin now? Why not wait for a river bet and "trap" me by re-raising all in?

He could have something like A8s or 89s,87s but again not very likely. Im thinking now is this guy capable of a bluff? But this is the micros would he be able to pull off such a sophisticated maneuver?

At the turn, if I call and im wrong I lose $2.09. I I call and im correct hes bluffing I win $4.1. So if he is bluffing approx more than 1/3 of the time here I would profit.

What would you do here?
 
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Just fold...you only have one pair. You can wait for a better spot instead of one where you might be drawing to 2 outs. just my opinion
 
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the problem here is you nothing about the player, is he a donk, nit, tag etc therefore it is very difficult to say what to do in this specific situation without more information about the person you are playing
 
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It's hard to fold KK when there is no A on the board. I'd call, plus it's only for a couple of dollars, not like you are playing for hundreds.
 
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i would probably fold, he could have the j8 j5 A8 jj or he could just be full of it. But not knowing his prior play there is no real way to make an educated decision on this move.
 
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the problem here is you nothing about the player, is he a donk, nit, tag etc therefore it is very difficult to say what to do in this specific situation without more information about the person you are playing

I'm with this train of thinking...although with most players it is fairly hard to fold KK's but given how the above situation was unfolding I might assume that the player had some sort of pocket pairs (above JJ's obv...) or a hand like A8 and such as well... In other words, A very strong hand by the time you even hit the flop... I find that when play others that keep calling up to that point and then hit you with that kind of a raise that their drawing you in by now because you already invested too much to want to fold your hand.... He more than likely to me wasn't bluffing...

I mean you must have some idea of the type of player even without a HUD... I mean aggress, pass, tight, loose...? I think we would need more to go on... jmho...
 
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It sounds like some sort of Jx combo hand. At this level a typical "raising" Jx range could be anything from J10s - AJ, with a possibility of JJ. I'm assuming without any reads that he floated you on the flop with a hand like QJ, KJ, AJ. Hit top pair and shoved. Again without any reads, it's hard to tell. I don't believe he'd float with an over pair on that flop at all, he would be betting that flop.
 
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It sounds like some sort of Jx combo hand. At this level a typical "raising" range could be anything from J10s - AJ, with a possibility of JJ. I'm assuming without any reads that he floated you on the flop with a hand like QJ, KJ, AJ. Hit top pair and shoved.

I would have to agree with this and the only problem is if you call and he has jj or x8 your sunk i really doubt he had AA. So i would probably fold unless he has been aggressive with high pair earlier in play. Then i would probably call.
 
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It sounds like some sort of Jx combo hand. At this level a typical "raising" Jx range could be anything from J10s - AJ, with a possibility of JJ. I'm assuming without any reads that he floated you on the flop with a hand like QJ, KJ, AJ. Hit top pair and shoved. Again without any reads, it's hard to tell. I don't believe he'd float with an over pair on that flop at all, he would be betting that flop.
Very good points.... I had only considered the hands only up the flop and not beyond... Thumbs up...
 
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i would call at this level you have alot of bluff betting you have more to gain then lose and you have a monster it would help to have info on how villian has been playing though
 
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i agree that at those limits you have to call. most likely they would push if they hit the jack.
 
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Just call it off, theyll shove with far worse at 2nl.
 
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Yeah i would more than likely call since no ace out there and not for that much money.
 
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with the amount of $ you already have in the pot, the chances are too good you still have best hand to fold here.
 
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Easy call. You have him beat way more often than he has an 8 most of the time. I've seen people shove with any PP in that spot.
 
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If he is a fish I would call. If he is a reg or nit I would fold and wait for better spots. You don't have to call if you think you're behind, trust me at these limits you will have many other spots to stack off the fish!
 
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call. 2/1 odds , kings good most of the time. he prob have 8 rag might even be 2 pair with j. u should be good most of the time if hes mad ag but if hes a nit fold gonna have an 8 for sure, i would prob call stylll lol KK
 
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Because its 2nl, i would call. Anything higher in terms of stakes and id probably fold. Against a random player, this should be a call.
 
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i would call...he will shove here with far worse ( he raised preflop so only a small part of his range will hit hard this board ; his most likely hands are small-medium PP,maybe some Jx hands Aj-10j )...and it's 2nl :D
 
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Theres some 55 in his range, doubt JJ or 55 play it like this tbh.

I think it's highly more likely he has QJ/TJ/AJ in his range here than any full house.


This is literally one of the best boards you hope for...doing anything other than calling here is bad.
 
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if your even thinking of folding that at 2NL ,then my man, you are playing wayyyyyyyy too tight.even against a nit.
 
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yah on afterthought its a call. Was playing on zoom and ive made similar calls after this hand with pocket kings and aces and opponents are usually bluffing or have one pair type hands
 
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I find most cases than not even at 2nl... People rarely bluff, i'm not saying they don't. I heard avg for someone bluffing is like 10% at any hand.
Vinylspiros is right... you have to play these hands you got 2 pair and you have some outs to better your hand incase your behind. Your chances of him bluffing+outs help you call everytime.
 
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