Is this just running bad?

akaRobbo

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Every pot I play at the minute getting resistance from people. Do you think im playing scared in these hands or actually running bad an losing the minimum? When I run good I run really good, but when I run bad I cant win a pot even when I flop monsters. Doing my head in atm.

pokerstars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($10.78)
CO ($16.71)
Button ($12.24)
SB ($22.19)
BB ($11.72)
Hero (UTG) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q
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, A
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Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) K
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, Q
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, A
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(3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.80, Hero folds

Total pot: $2.15 | Rake: $0.10

Results below:
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PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($4.90)
SB ($9.18)
BB ($10.93)
Hero (UTG) ($10)
MP ($22.74)
CO ($10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10
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, 10
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Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 2 folds, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1) 10
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, 5
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, Q
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.60, MP calls $0.60, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.20) 8
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($2.20) 9
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Total pot: $2.20 | Rake: $0.10

Results below:
Hero had 10
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, 10
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(three of a kind, tens).
MP had K
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, J
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(straight, King high).
Outcome: MP won $2.10

Even if i bet the turn hes still calling on an open ended?


I know I slow played this hand, but Id been cbetting so much. This one time I slow play TPTK...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

BB ($5.37)
UTG ($11.32)
Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A
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, K
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1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) K
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, 4
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, 5
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.65) 2
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(2 players)
BB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.30

River: ($1.45) 6
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.60, BB calls $0.60

Total pot: $2.65 | Rake: $0.12

Results below:
Hero had A
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, K
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(one pair, Kings).
BB had 3
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, A
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(straight, six high).
Outcome: BB won $2.53


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($11.16)
MP ($9.47)
CO ($12.16)
Button ($14.64)
SB ($14.95)
Hero (BB) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A
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, J
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1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65) A
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, 7
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, K
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

Turn: ($1.25) 5
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70

River: ($2.65) A
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $8.17 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $2.65 | Rake: $0.12

Results below:
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All of these were in the space of 1 hour. Wtf?
 
BluffMeAllIn

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AQ - think you gave up too easily, guess you put him on AK or JT, do you not think KT, KJ, KQ, QJ would not look to play this similarly if they are have any aggression at all to put you off many hands like under pairs or kx qx hands yourself? Any info on villian, I mean being bb IMO there are many hands he would be flatting to see a flop given he was getting like 3.7:1 if i got that correct (20c into 75c pot??). Just a thought think i might 4bet > flat > fold in that spot and assess the situation from there.

TT - why not continue betting on the turn, the board did just get scarier so why give a free card to a turn that likely gave many more outs.....no idea why he checked the nuts on the river????

AK - why no cbet?

AJ - not sure really, might b/f river rather than c/f but probably well played but just you not having shown any strength in the hand he could be doing this with KQ as well but decent chances you run into a fh i suppose.

Anyhow just some of my thoughts on the hands.
 
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AQ - think you gave up too easily, guess you put him on AK or JT, do you not think KT, KJ, KQ, QJ would not look to play this similarly if they are have any aggression at all to put you off many hands like under pairs or kx qx hands yourself? Any info on villian, I mean being bb IMO there are many hands he would be flatting to see a flop given he was getting like 3.7:1 if i got that correct (20c into 75c pot??). Just a thought think i might 4bet > flat > fold in that spot and assess the situation from there.

TT - why not continue betting on the turn, the board did just get scarier so why give a free card to a turn that likely gave many more outs.....no idea why he checked the nuts on the river????

AK - why no cbet?

AJ - not sure really, might b/f river rather than c/f but probably well played but just you not having shown any strength in the hand he could be doing this with KQ as well but decent chances you run into a fh i suppose.

Anyhow just some of my thoughts on the hands.

Thanks.

AQ- villain stats were 12/10 and mine were only slightly higher. Isnt he just calling with KT KJ KQ QJ? 3-betting me on that board seems extremely strong, or very reckless if hes not got it.

TT- should have bet the turn. I just had a nasty feeling idk why.

AK- figured id get no value so wanted to tempt a steal from villain. Not many hands are giving me any problems on that flop.

AJ- pretty similar hand happened yesterday, only I held AQ and villain had AK. He made a FH on the river and I made trip Aces. I folded to his river value bet and he said nice fold. Confident im beat here.

Don't you just wish boards can brick off sometimes. Jeez
 
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Every pot I play at the minute getting resistance from people. Do you think im playing scared in these hands or actually running bad an losing the minimum? When I run good I run really good, but when I run bad I cant win a pot even when I flop monsters. Doing my head in atm.

All of these were in the space of 1 hour. Wtf?
Both to bold.

AQ: fine

TT: Bet more on flop, please bet turn, you losing a ton of value there from draws (FD/SD), lower set (55), Top pairs (AQ/KQ/JQ/TQ), even JJ some times pay there, you pretty much give him a free card on turn to hit on river his draw.

AK: Bet flop, as played raise more on turn.

AJ: i lead flop
 
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Both to bold.

AQ: fine

TT: Bet more on flop, please bet turn, you losing a ton of value there from draws (FD/SD), lower set (55), Top pairs (AQ/KQ/JQ/TQ), even JJ some times pay there, you pretty much give him a free card on turn to hit on river his draw.

AK: Bet flop, as played raise more on turn.

AJ: i lead flop

I really have no idea why I checked the turn on TT. I think my sets have lost the last few times which might be why im hesitant, terrible play by me though. No more slow playing from me without the absolute nuts.

Also, when you do make the nuts on the turn/river and you're aware villain has a hand, particularly at micros is best to just shove, rather than value betting? Obviously if we have a solid sample of villain being a good player were value betting but against fish or lesser players do you find they pay off? Or get scared and fold? I feel like im not getting value from my big hands atm.
 
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No...

I love the check behind with the nuts by MP in hand 2... that's classic.
 
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No...

I love the check behind with the nuts by MP in hand 2... that's classic.

No I shouldn't shove the nuts?

I know, I wasn't even annoyed after that, just laughed out loud.
 
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Aren't we fed up with this?

Was against a fish 56/34. Still a fold?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (BB) ($10)
UTG ($8.94)
MP ($10.74)
Button ($16.63)
SB ($10.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2
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, A
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UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) A
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, A
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, 4
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(3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.40, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.60, UTG calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.15) 10
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(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($4.15) 9
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(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2, Hero folds

Total pot: $4.15 | Rake: $0.19

Results below:
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I 3b pre to isolate fish and to take initiative, as played we get on tough spot. We want fishy bluff flop and by raising we fold out most hands, we have a shitty kicker so if he call we don´t know if he do it with AX or with 55-KK but our kicker will not let us put more presure after get call, so we have to check turn and give up a ton of times if he bet.
By just calling we let him bluff all his range but he could check back turn, so maybe better to lead flop and turn at least we are seting the size amounts and if villain raise we can fold.


 
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I 3b pre to isolate fish and to take initiative, as played we get on tough spot. We want fishy bluff flop and by raising we fold out most hands, we have a shitty kicker so if he call we don´t know if he do it with AX or with 55-KK but our kicker will not let us put more presure after get call, so we have to check turn and give up a ton of times if he bet.
By just calling we let him bluff all his range but he could check back turn, so maybe better to lead flop and turn at least we are seting the size amounts and if villain raise we can fold.




The thing is, they barely ever raise. They just call. With a bad kicker like that im just spewing chips at A6 A7 whatever ace rag he's got. He probably shoves his stack with any ace rag.

Im going to start 3 betting pre though, otherwise im playing vs ATC and have no idea where im at. As you say, fish will probably let me do the betting as well so I can control the pot if im unsure.

Fish are such a b**ch to play against when you're running bad though.
 
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TT. Using this as an example of running bad is kind of one-sided. Yes, he did draw out on your set. Otoh, he checked behind on the river with the stone cold nuts when you might well have called a small value bet, thereby losing more.

AK. Similar. He drew out, but you could well have lost more.

AJ. How do you know whether you ran bad on this hand? If you were behind, his river shove let you limit your losses. If you were ahead, you ran good card-wise but folded the winning hand.

A2. Similar to AJ
 
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AQo - I'll just reraise to 4$ and get it in if he shoves and shove turn if he calls . We have outs vs JT, AK probably 3bets pre at 10nl.

TT - i'd bet .75 on flop, 2$ on turn , and meh check call river if he makes a small bet, fold to a big bet so that charging him to hit his draw and not paying off big when he hits.

AK - cbet the flop 0.5 . whats it matter if you been cbetting a lot , if that means they don't believe you, use that to gain extra when you actually have it. As played raise turn bigger 1$. half pot on river. folding to reraises

AJ - i'd want a read on the guy, sometimes i could call that if i think hes the sort that does this as a bluff. if he only does this for value then easy fold.

A2 - meh i call the river cos i don't think he bets less than half pot on flop with Ax and he probably bets turn with TT otherwise we are likely to check river again.
 
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