Is it possible to win at poker if you are unlucky

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Just lost a 1200 dollar pot in a 1 2 game I raised preflop to 12 with 7 callers . bet 20 on the flop wit 3 callers and the 4th goes all in for 300. 4 callers all in on the flop qc 10c 5d I have KJ off next to me has Jc9c next has 5c4c last has pocket 10s I say give me the ace of dia and it hits I made nut straight on the turn with ace of diamonds. A player says I folded A5 of hearts and the ace of clubs hits the river. He had 7 outs and the 2 flush draws had 6 outs I had 27 cards that held up my nut straight and I go from first to last with the case ace.
 
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Yea luck does almost nothing for you in cash game as long as you are doing 60 buy-in bankroll management.Luck is more of a nuisance in cash games, although it is needed to bring in the fish otherwise it would just be Badugi. Just play MTT's you don't need much skill and you can actually win 100x your buyin while cash games are a grind to win money slowly.
 
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What is a 60 buy in bankroll
 
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This is not unlucky, you needed to click FOLD when you missed the flop my friend. There are better spots to get your money in than when you are a 5 to 1 dog in a multiway pot.
 
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Luck and Chance is relative, you have to know how to fold.
 
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It was a 1200 dollar pot and I had to call 168 more It was totally the right call I hit the nuts straight on the turn and had to dodge dodge 7 spades and 7 cards to pair the board one person said he folded an ace so going to the river I 27 cards to win and 14 cards to dodge I was a 58 % fav
 
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It was a 1200 dollar pot and I had to call 168 more It was totally the right call I hit the nuts straight on the turn and had to dodge dodge 7 spades and 7 cards to pair the board one person said he folded an ace so going to the river I 27 cards to win and 14 cards to dodge I was a 58 % fav

That hand was not well played by you. Come back after you have lost multiple 90/10 races or worse.
 
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Well you had 17% to win on the flop, I would not say losing from there is really a case of bad luck. Winning though would have been good luck.
 
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played it right, but ... you're just like a sweet bun, and you had no chance not to play with players who came only for your purse ...
 
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UTG ?? opening KJo with a table that everyone calls?? I do not like that, Then did you say you led into the whole table with a $ 20 bet?? The pot was $87 approx??? I do not like that , 3 callers and a shove?? And you say you are happy with your call?? I disagree.





Just my opinion but I do not think the hand was played well, so if you are just "chalking" that up to bad luck, I think it is going to be difficult to ever improve your game. You have to be able to look at your play and realistically see what you should have done differently. I really think the very good players on this site will be able to break this down and show you that this was not unlucky.
 
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the goal of studying the best way to play poker .... as the pro and just to neutralize the luck .....
playing with JK and losing is not bad luck .... studied the range of hands very little
 
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It seems like most people dont calculate pot odds or implied odds on this site. when I had to make my decision there was already 202 dollars in the pot without the all in raiser so thats 326 . This was the second hand of a new table starting so I had 162 left. I called the player behind me called and another player called they all had 300 each so it made the pot a little bigger for them I had about 862 I could win they had about 1200. I need to get this straight. Most of you would laydown the nut open ended straight draw in that situation. If so I dont know how any of you make in money. I was unlucky on the river The turn was just a tease to make the nut straight.
 
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It seems like most people dont calculate pot odds or implied odds on this site. when I had to make my decision there was already 202 dollars in the pot without the all in raiser so thats 326 . This was the second hand of a new table starting so I had 162 left. I called the player behind me called and another player called they all had 300 each so it made the pot a little bigger for them I had about 862 I could win they had about 1200. I need to get this straight. Most of you would laydown the nut open ended straight draw in that situation. If so I dont know how any of you make in money. I was unlucky on the river The turn was just a tease to make the nut straight.

Wow, I am not talking about 1 bet, where you say but look I have the odds to call. If that is the only decision you make in a poker hand. I think you are going to call yourself unlucky many times. You need to take the stack sizes of your opponents, how is the table playing. I think opening your hand is just an awful play, considering that the whole table called your open. At a table that loose, you cannot open a weak hand like KJo, then if you open it as played, you can not lead into a family pot with a 20 bet, you are showing weakness to a table full of calling stations.??? If you cannot see how your preflop and flop action caused you to be "unlucky".... Well, then I am wrong and you can carry on, because no one on this site even knows what "pot odds" are.
I wish you well. Happy Holidays
 
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Despite the odds, luck prevails, live and online. I am outwardly gracious but burning inside with every ridiculous bad beat on the river. Best of "Luck", certainly applies
 
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I said it was the 2nd hand of a new table everyone had 200 to 300
 
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I bet 20 to name my price and see where Im at I dont want to bet the pot or half pot at that point and I dont want to check it would be week and someone may bet more. I feel if big blind had not hit a set. I would have seen the turn for 20 bucks and made the nut straight only to get unlucky on the river with the ace of clubs to one or both of the flush draws or to someone that hit 2 pair with like ace 10. I just got unlucky. Im so unlucky for the last 3 week I have flopped 11 sets and only won 3 .If im a 80% fav and get it all in. I loose more than I win
 
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Luck is part of the game you will newer win without it but you also are not going to win only because of it. So get smart and lucky
 
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Once I lost all the hands with pocket aces 3 days in a row. My tilt was out-of-the-way, but after a week's break everything went well and my aces started to make a profit again. But without luck, of course you will not win much money, and all you win - you can lose as quickly
 
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Playing KJo is fine if you know how to play it well. You obviously don't know wtf is going on in this game. So, don't play trash next time.
 
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Just lost a 1200 dollar pot in a 1 2 game I raised preflop to 12 with 7 callers
As far as I'm concerned, any game where you raise 6X pre-flop & get 7 [SEVEN] callers is ALL LUCK from that point on.
 
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1200 dollars to merge, it must be able to. I think initially choosing a table with a small byte, If the game does not go, do not merge everything. Just go get tea and coffee. Leave aside, watch the movie. And sit down, then, when you are as calm and cold-blooded as possible. Poker, as quickly as possible, you obderet as lime, if you play on emotions. I myself sometimes bluff, but in cash games, players bluff more often than in tournaments. And it's difficult for me to distinguish bluff from real cards.
 
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I advise you to start with tournaments without rebuys. Why? Everything is easy and understandable
At the start you are given from 1500 to 50 000 chips, depends on the bane. Rebayev is not there, there are no addons. And almost no bluff. Here you will earn a hand, and learn patience.
 
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Nope it is not. To be a consistent player you must put yourself in +EV spots.

If you don't make money in those spots, then you are screwed.
 
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I believe that you can win if you aren't getting good hands because when you lose often the players tilt but need to control myself and succeed.
 
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