Is it that hard to lay down a flopped set?

this has happened to me too many times the last couple of weeks. from red rock in vegas, to commerce, to bicycle in LA... i need help...

the best example was the commerce incident...

i got pocket 10s. everyone tries to limp in. im big blind. so i raise. two callers.

the flop was 5, 9, 10 - no flush draw, all random...

three players. one raises. other folds. of course i call - im thinking he's got cowboys or rockets, either way i have a set.

so i have trip 10s. cant complain, right?

turn is a 7. he checks. i gotta put him in his place now in case he's chasing to trip up on his high pair... so i raise, nothing too crazy...

..he puts me all in. now i can only assume he's chasing a straight, right? but the odds of him getting one, after the way he's been betting... and he's a pretty loose player to begin with...

i call with my trip 10s. he shows 4-8 off suit. everyone at the table wanted to smack this guy.

the river was a 6.

was it wrong for me to wait for him in the parking lot with a maglite ready to beat his @$$ to death??? what would you guys have done differently at the turn, knowing there is a possible straight coming... trip 10s? yes or no...

BadBeatBilly said:

what would you guys have done differently at the turn, knowing there is a possible straight coming... trip 10s? yes or no...

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knowing that he would be chasing the straight, I would most likely try and be the one who sets all in rather than having to call all in, his play is a lot less justified if he calls all in with that hand. Being that he pushed all in, his play was a good one that didnt go to well because you had top set.
as for him staying with you pre flop, and on the flop, now i cant really explain that one.

i would be standing right beside you with a machete.

good. i thought i was nuts. but wow. crazy old vietnamese guy chased the whole damn thing, even after i raised pre flop... with frikin 4-8 off suit. man. i wanted to chuck norris axe kick his face. good gawd.

Welcome to Cardschat Billy (BBB? sorry can't use that, somebody else is BBB here).

Trying to play a set is wrought with danger. We all know this, or should by now. In this case tho, where the guys only real prayer was a runner runner catch, I might be there in the parking lot with you with towels to mop up the blood.

You had better odds to pair the board than he did to catch runner runner.

Poker is a cruel Mistress.

i got sucked out a similar time during a celebrity tournament at commerce. george costanzo out of all people. but my hand was better that time. cant remember all the details as it was a longer time ago. but he chased me down on a flush draw and pushed me all in after the flop. i had trip jacks. he got his flush on the river. booooo!!!!!

Gotta roll with the punches I reckon. Thats a win 9/10 times. I would have played it that way, just an unfortunate river

FWIW I've laid down a flopped set like 3 times total in my life.

with the cards that were out i cant see myself laying this down. you just got unlucky.

You called when you were ahead, what's the problem? I laid a set down once, but there were 3 spades and 4 in a row.

i'll go broke with a set 90% of the time before i'll fold it. The board texture has to be TERRIBLE for me to let a set go.

zachvac said:

You called when you were ahead, what's the problem? I laid a set down once, but there were 3 spades and 4 in a row.

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zach, was this on the river? on the turn I may stick around to see the board pair, but thats another situation, for another thread.

Raising when he needed a runner, runner... gutsy.......... a maglite was all you had to beat him with?

Good call, I would have done the same. Sometimes people just get lucky.

royalburrito24 said:

zach, was this on the river? on the turn I may stick around to see the board pair, but thats another situation, for another thread.

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No, the river killed my hand, forget the exact cards but it was something like 356 and 2 spades already on the board, river is 4 of spades. I think it was a bit higher but you get the point.

I think the point is he put you all-in, he did not call. Pushing with a gut shot is not always a bad play, calling with one is (unless you're getting ridiculous pot odds). I guess he thought you didn't have a good enough hand to call, he obviously didn't put you on a set, but he figures that even if you have him beat, he most likely still has 4 outs, so he's not drawing completely dead. But you put your money in when you had the best hand, and that's all you can do. You win the majority of the hands when your opponent is drawing to 4 outs.

How much did you raise pre-flop? And what position was the villain in?

59T is acutally a draw-ish board, especially if you've let other players in cheap or given them the right price to call with anything. I might've re-raised the flop.

BadBeatBilly said:

everyone at the table wanted to smack this guy.

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Lol, sure... sure they did... Anyhow, you should quit poker if you get mad at people chasing and take the game too personal. I rather have people be on draws instead of better hands during showdowns.

I know the feeling I flopped a full house before pocket 2's board hits 2- 3 -3 I go allin cards turn up he hits nothing on the board I'm laughing why did he call,he has A -8 fourth card nothing, river he hits ace. A maglite wouldn't be enough, lol

fourth card was a 3