Was it a good fold?

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I am starting a BR so I was playing .02/.04 6 max shallow (max $2 BI)

And here is what happened:

Hand#3436015963000833 - Rome (6-max, shallow) 15963 -- $0.02/$0.04 NL Hold'em -- 2013/09/01 - 04:37:03
Dealer: Seat 8
Seat 1: kyle71 ($1.85 in chips)
Seat 2: FauxStaxx ($11.13 in chips)
Seat 3: ThankUL8r ($1.50 in chips)
Seat 8: S3mperV60 ($3.72 in chips)
Seat 9: babkiu ($1.89 in chips)
babkiu: posts small blind $0.02
kyle71: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to S3mperV60 [Ac,Ah]

FauxStaxx: raises to $0.12
ThankUL8r: folds
S3mperV60: raises to $0.32
babkiu: folds
kyle71: folds
FauxStaxx: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [Jc,Td,9c]
FauxStaxx: checks
S3mperV60: bets $0.35
FauxStaxx: raises to $1
S3mperV60: folds
FauxStaxx: returns uncalled bet $0.65
***SHOW DOWN***
FauxStaxx: mucks
FauxStaxx wins $1.31

This players image is tight his raise and call reraise range (I think) was AA-KQ
This player bluffs rarely and I highly doubt he is bluffing when he makes the raise the only hand I beat that's in his range that maybe he would re raise me with is AJ but I didn't think that's what he had so I felt he had JJ

I couldn't tell you what my image was at the table I was switching it up a lot because players would come and go and bring way different styles of play and I adjusted..

I do know that Re-raising pre flop C betting and creating a big pot with air was not in my image though I had to have a little something in this spot.

Please comment on the fold good, bad, awful, easy? could I have played the hand better? any information is appreciated thanks.
 
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I am starting a BR so I was playing .02/.04 6 max shallow (max $2 BI)

And here is what happened:

Hand#3436015963000833 - Rome (6-max, shallow) 15963 -- $0.02/$0.04 NL Hold'em -- 2013/09/01 - 04:37:03
Dealer: Seat 8
Seat 1: kyle71 ($1.85 in chips)
Seat 2: FauxStaxx ($11.13 in chips)
Seat 3: ThankUL8r ($1.50 in chips)
Seat 8: S3mperV60 ($3.72 in chips)
Seat 9: babkiu ($1.89 in chips)
babkiu: posts small blind $0.02
kyle71: posts big blind $0.04
Dealt to S3mperV60 [Ac,Ah]

FauxStaxx: raises to $0.12
ThankUL8r: folds
S3mperV60: raises to $0.32
babkiu: folds
kyle71: folds
FauxStaxx: calls $0.20
*** FLOP *** [Jc,Td,9c]
FauxStaxx: checks
S3mperV60: bets $0.35
FauxStaxx: raises to $1
S3mperV60: folds
FauxStaxx: returns uncalled bet $0.65
***SHOW DOWN***
FauxStaxx: mucks
FauxStaxx wins $1.31

This players image is tight his raise and call reraise range (I think) was AA-KQ
This player bluffs rarely and I highly doubt he is bluffing when he makes the raise the only hand I beat that's in his range that maybe he would re raise me with is AJ but I didn't think that's what he had so I felt he had JJ

I couldn't tell you what my image was at the table I was switching it up a lot because players would come and go and bring way different styles of play and I adjusted..

I do know that Re-raising pre flop C betting and creating a big pot with air was not in my image though I had to have a little something in this spot.

Please comment on the fold good, bad, awful, easy? could I have played the hand better? any information is appreciated thanks.

At that level and against a common player I would have shoved. But against a tight player...it is possible that he had TT, JJ. I think your fold is ok at this situation. :)
 
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would have reraised pre if he has the opening reraising range you stated to better narrow down what range of cards he had
 
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With your read why did you not shove pre flop instead of re-raise?
 
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With your read why did you not shove pre flop instead of re-raise?

I didn't want to win his raise I wanted as much value as I could get and he probably isn't calling a shove by me without KK QQ
if he re raised me I would of 4 bet of course
 
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Well played! Hard to fold your aces and as you said villain was a tight player, to me you made the correct fold, just wish I could fold more often in these situations :)
 
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you should have call

Why he should have called wiseguy??
He doesnt beat JJ 10 10 9 9 and KQ which are the most likely hands oponent is calling a raise. Against tight oponent for me its AUTOFOLD.
Well played!
 
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If you are assuming that his call of a 3bet is incredibly tight to begin with why not re-raise AA more pre flop. I think that is a good way to go in this hand. I don't hate your fold because when you are ahead I think its marginal, and when you are behind you have very little equity

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Question i have is... Was the big stack bullying the table a lot? In a lot of hands, raising a lot?
 
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True but with a raise like that? Is he trying to get it all in? Or trying to make us fold? :) and it appears fold. So we are shoving.


And lol my response before was thinking was on another thread.. But deleted it :) Last time I click it on most active threads and assume.
 
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lol at that flop. Bet/folding is def OK. TBH, x/f isn't going to cost you too much in these situations either. I mean, if this went mw I would happily x/f that flop even with The Aces :)
 
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I 'm going broke holding AA if he had me beat. Im all in on the flop after his raise.
 
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I 'm going broke holding AA there if he had me beat. Im all in on the flop after his raise there.
Unless the guy is a maniac, you might want to save yourself some money and rethink this line.
 
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I 'm going broke holding AA if he had me beat. Im all in on the flop after his raise.

Eventually you will learn to fold AA on some flops against some oponents. Remember that its only a pair.
 
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I think it was a very good move! Probably had tt. 99 or J. you realize the kind of moves!
 
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Good fold imo. SO many players (particularly lower stakes players) cannot make that lay-down. That sort of discipline will take you far.
 
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IMO It was a great fold , I would like to think I would have done the same =)
 
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True but with a raise like that? Is he trying to get it all in? Or trying to make us fold? :) and it appears fold. So we are shoving.


And lol my response before was thinking was on another thread.. But deleted it :) Last time I click it on most active threads and assume.

Villain here is never raising trying to get me off my hand in this, this is a value raise he either has the best hand or thinks he has the best hand in this spot.
 
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Yes but pocket KK's could shove or even QQ's... Perhaps he donk shoves with 2 pair? And you could double the board and get it. *** lets not forget a flush draw***

Could we really assume he'd have KQ since most times his call he'd be most likely dominated in this spot preflop and most players that are tight avoid spots like this...



I guess it's profitable for him to setmine you. and he's got like JJ's or 10's But your under 4 dollars and he's got 11.. I don't see the point in him overbetting unless he's getting you to fold. Your throwing money into the pot and that's what any person with the best hand wants.. They don't want you to fold.

But the facts are theres more he could have that you beat... And people do bluff and you can still beat half the things he has even if your behind by catching a card.... Meh :) No guts no glory. One thing I've noticed is a lot of ppl with bigger stacks tend to drop their guard or less afraid to move money and bluff... Anyways say what you will... I just know i'm calling and beating this guy. And if he gets me then that's just poker, I just know next time i'll get him and he'll know I mean business. If he thinks i'm weakish player that's even better then it's setup.
 
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Yes but pocket KK's could shove or even QQ's... Perhaps he donk shoves with 2 pair?
We can probably take KK out of his range as he probs 4bets/gii pre. QQ is obviously possible, but he'll be calling the flop with that I would have thought.

Perhaps he donk shoves with 2 pair?
No one donk shoved.

In OP he clearly states that villain is tight/weak, so he's not bluffing here. We don't beat anything but a bluff imo.

Anyways say what you will... I just know i'm calling and beating this guy. And if he gets me then that's just poker, I just know next time i'll get him and he'll know I mean business. If he thinks i'm weakish player that's even better then it's setup.
lol
 
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I couldn't fold in that situation so nice one !
 
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