Originally Posted by mikeisanace
I play a lot of limit poker I consider myself very astute in the mechanics of the game my question however is should I fold traditional big hands on flops where I know I have the best hands but the flip is just not worth value betting calling stations?
Having what you know is the best hand playing calling stations is the very best fixed limit scenario. You value bet them on every street. If they get there, that always SUX, but all it costs you is a few bets. This isn't no-limit where you have to protect your stack, and in that case, yeah, you would get out of their way unless they're short stacked, and then you GII while you're good.
It's always worth value betting stations, even in flip situations. Your opponents see that, and you can slow 'em down on future rounds when you're playing a pot with them.
For instance I have aq off in the cutoff with 4 players and im in position. I'm playing with the typical gamblers who bet up draws what do I do? I have had some luck with aggression re raising them and making them pay for the draw however it's 4 players with 2 of them most likely drawing and another guy with an ace as well..
So the flop is a-5-4 2 clubs and for their range ak isn't likely and most likely any flush draw or 3 x like q-3 off or something weird like that and maybe another weak ace and less likely 2 pair. With the cards running out the flush comes a lot so does the wheel and sometimes the weak ace gets his weird 2 pair so what do I do. If it's nitty players who also draw and check I often give them free cards and let it run taking my small pot with 0 risk. If they bet raise and I re raise it it's just a coin flip until the river risking me 25 bucks or more to lose or win. So If they start betting should I just dump it and wait for a stronger hand like tp with a nut flush draw or set in hopes to fill up or hold up on a flush board with no str8 draw?
In FLHE, this is usually a green light to the river. How you play depends. Sometimes, you might want to raise it if there's a bet ahead of you, and you definitely bet out OTF if checked around. You can also smooth call the flop and wait for the expensive street to try to thin the herd.
When you're against three other players, yeah, sometimes one of them binks or completes a draw. Those things happen, but it's far
from a flip. You're putting one bet in the pot, and they are adding three more bets. You'll come out way ahead in the long run.
As for how any one session goes, that depends. If you know the nit is in, and he's not getting out because he hit his draw, or he won't go to the turn without binking at least two pair, then you can get out of his way. If that's not the case, and you have stationy players because "LOL it's limit" you never give them a break, and you sure don't give away any freebies.