Improving online cash?

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Hi all.I was just wondering how I could really start improving my cash game (online), for example; what sort of stakes I should start out on, whether to multi-table or not and when to leave the table.
Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
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Hi all.I was just wondering how I could really start improving my cash game (online),

Hi PokerIM and welcome to CC!
for example; what sort of stakes I should start out on,
Generic answer to this question: depends on your bankroll and skill level.

whether to multi-table or not
Depends a lot on your game: Do you rely on reads of opponents, or is starting range and position more important to you?
multi-tabling can offer a way out of the sheer boredom of folding the majority of the time, but it's hard to concentrate and takes practice to move effortlessly between tables.
I max out around 4~6 (depending on the game - cash games a bit lower than SnGs for example.)
and when to leave the table.
Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
:)
Easiest answer here: if you feel either that you are being outplayed or you are changing your game because of a play another player at that table made.
If they get you out of your comfort zone, bail , regroup and live to fight another day.

Be sure to check out our Strategy Articles section (found in the menu above. Poke around and read the questions posted by other, jump in and contribute, learn, share and most of all, enjoy!

~Pete
 
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Hi PokerIM and welcome to CC!

Generic answer to this question: depends on your bankroll and skill level.


Depends a lot on your game: Do you rely on reads of opponents, or is starting range and position more important to you?
multi-tabling can offer a way out of the sheer boredom of folding the majority of the time, but it's hard to concentrate and takes practice to move effortlessly between tables.
I max out around 4~6 (depending on the game - cash games a bit lower than SnGs for example.)

Easiest answer here: if you feel either that you are being outplayed or you are changing your game because of a play another player at that table made.
If they get you out of your comfort zone, bail , regroup and live to fight another day.

Be sure to check out our Strategy Articles section (found in the menu above. Poke around and read the questions posted by other, jump in and contribute, learn, share and most of all, enjoy!

~Pete
Thanks Pete really appreciated.
 
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start at microstakes. If you dont see who the fish on the table is after half an hour then you are the fish
 
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Hi all.I was just wondering how I could really start improving my cash game (online), for example; what sort of stakes I should start out on, whether to multi-table or not and when to leave the table.
Thanks in advance any help is appreciated.
:)

Hello man! Welcome to CC! We all hope you will enjoy it here with us :)

I was in similar position about half a year earlier, I wanted to start playing more seriously and try to climb the limits so here is some advice from me:



1. Stakes
I highly recommend starting at the lowest possible stakes at the site you play. Many new and inexperienced players get fooled into playing higher (like I did) but its just a waste of money. If you think you are better than 2NL, just play it anywas and see for yourself if its really true. In my instance it was not true and I had to learn a lot to beat the lowest stakes and Im still in fight with them :) If your skillset is strong enough to play higher, just beat this limit first anyways and move up gradually.


2. Multitabling
You should do what suits you the best and no definite answer here is needed. Try for yourself. If you are a new player you should start with fewer tables, if you are playing regular tables and not zoom, I think 3 or 4 tables are sufficient. If you feel you are not focused enough when you have so many tables, just close some and try to play only the amount you can focus on. I had problems with this, now that I played a few thousands of hands I improved my multitabling to playing 6 tables at a time. Just start off small.
If you play zoom its fine to open 2 or 3 tables and you can fold or play as fast as you want.
The thing with multitabling (at least for me) was when I had only a few tables I was bored and I did a lot of mistakes out of impatience. However, when I played too many I was too distracted as it was all too fast for me. So try out and find what suits you the best ;)


3. When to leave the table
This is also very different from player to player but I would just advise you to leave as soon as you feel tilted or emotionally affected (angry, too hyped up, bored, upset) or affected in any other way (in pain, exhausted, sleepy, ... ). If you are not 100% focused you will not play your A game which is not good. I saw some players use some kind of stop-loss system to leave the table, meaning, for example, lets say your stop loss will be 3BI so you play and when you lose 3 Buy ins for your current limit you quit. I dont use this personally but it might be good for you.


4. General improvement
If you are a fun player then this might not be interesting for you but if you want to play to improve and make some money or move up limits, this will be the most important part of advice. You should always keep in mind you need to improve your game and that means not only playing, but studying, analysing, etc.

There are a lot of materials and interesting threads here on the forum, especially in cash game subforum (here). You can find some cash journals of our members (including mine) and learn something from our mistakes, ask questions or what ever you like.

You can also post your hands in the hand analysis sub-forum. You will get a reply for sure!

There are tons of studying materials on the internet. Go search for some :)

If you want some suggestions just tell us and we will be happy to give you some hints on where to start finding articles and studying materials.


GL!
 
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Hello man! Welcome to CC! We all hope you will enjoy it here with us :)

I was in similar position about half a year earlier, I wanted to start playing more seriously and try to climb the limits so here is some advice from me:



1. Stakes
I highly recommend starting at the lowest possible stakes at the site you play. Many new and inexperienced players get fooled into playing higher (like I did) but its just a waste of money. If you think you are better than 2NL, just play it anywas and see for yourself if its really true. In my instance it was not true and I had to learn a lot to beat the lowest stakes and Im still in fight with them :) If your skillset is strong enough to play higher, just beat this limit first anyways and move up gradually.


2. Multitabling
You should do what suits you the best and no definite answer here is needed. Try for yourself. If you are a new player you should start with fewer tables, if you are playing regular tables and not zoom, I think 3 or 4 tables are sufficient. If you feel you are not focused enough when you have so many tables, just close some and try to play only the amount you can focus on. I had problems with this, now that I played a few thousands of hands I improved my multitabling to playing 6 tables at a time. Just start off small.
If you play zoom its fine to open 2 or 3 tables and you can fold or play as fast as you want.
The thing with multitabling (at least for me) was when I had only a few tables I was bored and I did a lot of mistakes out of impatience. However, when I played too many I was too distracted as it was all too fast for me. So try out and find what suits you the best ;)


3. When to leave the table
This is also very different from player to player but I would just advise you to leave as soon as you feel tilted or emotionally affected (angry, too hyped up, bored, upset) or affected in any other way (in pain, exhausted, sleepy, ... ). If you are not 100% focused you will not play your A game which is not good. I saw some players use some kind of stop-loss system to leave the table, meaning, for example, lets say your stop loss will be 3BI so you play and when you lose 3 Buy ins for your current limit you quit. I dont use this personally but it might be good for you.


4. General improvement
If you are a fun player then this might not be interesting for you but if you want to play to improve and make some money or move up limits, this will be the most important part of advice. You should always keep in mind you need to improve your game and that means not only playing, but studying, analysing, etc.

There are a lot of materials and interesting threads here on the forum, especially in cash game subforum (here). You can find some cash journals of our members (including mine) and learn something from our mistakes, ask questions or what ever you like.

You can also post your hands in the hand analysis sub-forum. You will get a reply for sure!

There are tons of studying materials on the internet. Go search for some :)

If you want some suggestions just tell us and we will be happy to give you some hints on where to start finding articles and studying materials.


GL!
Thank you so much, this has been a big help.
 
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Welcome to cards chat!

First thing I’d start with is the guides from this site. I’m unsure where you’re starting from and what gaps you’re needing to fill in your game, but the articles on this site are quite useful.


For stake sizing, I’d start with the minimum amount. I.e. $0.01/ $0.02. If it’s tournaments you’re wanting to play, then I’d start with the lower buyin. It depends on your bankroll too. I tend to buying with 5% of my bankroll for tournaments.


I’d start with one table until you’re comfortable with it. Then add one table at a time.


Good luck!
 
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Thanks for the help, im going to give it them a look.
 
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Sorry friend, the cache is not my Forte, itself learning by myself reading, doing self-training. Can help what you do not. But if there is a question on many table tournaments-address. ready to share experience
 
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