im new to omaha

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i like to play horse but i find myself always losin the most money in omaha and i think its because every hand i get i play because im like oh i can get this or that. especially in high low. is there any method to the madness of what starting hands are good. or what hands do you usually try to get. please help. i suck at omaha.
 
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  1. The two keys to winning Omaha is playing only premium starting hands, even more so than Texas Holdem. I play double suited connectors, AKAJ/10 and Double PP's and if I don't have a nut draw or the nuts after flop I usually muck.
 
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either have the nuts or be drawing huge for the nuts. Its pretty much that simple. I'd also say to be careful of small sets. Alot of people lose money hitting their full house when they were behind to a bigger set the whole time. Anything A2 is good to start because of the low factor. A23 is really nice because your still shooting for the nut low even if an ace or 2 come off.
 
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In Hi/Lo you really want to be playing hands in which you have the ability to scoop both pots. For instance KK A2 double suited would be a really good hand in Omaha Hi/Lo - You can make the low and you also have a strong high that could get better. AK A2 is another similar hand. Of course there are many more hands you can play. For Omaha I would recommend starting out only playing Omaha Hi. You will learn alot more about reading boards and counting "nut" outs ect. The low part isn't as hard to pick up later.

IMO Omaha 8 is the game that everyone should learn because it's where all the easy money will be. Right now NL is a game that the bad players are getting better at or at least understand the idea of aggression and the gap between good and bad players is getting closer. Omaha 8 or better will heavily favor the better player.
 
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In Hi/Lo you really want to be playing hands in which you have the ability to scoop both pots. For instance KK A2 double suited would be a really good hand in Omaha Hi/Lo - You can make the low and you also have a strong high that could get better. AK A2 is another similar hand. Of course there are many more hands you can play. For Omaha I would recommend starting out only playing Omaha Hi. You will learn alot more about reading boards and counting "nut" outs ect. The low part isn't as hard to pick up later.

IMO Omaha 8 is the game that everyone should learn because it's where all the easy money will be. Right now NL is a game that the bad players are getting better at or at least understand the idea of aggression and the gap between good and bad players is getting closer. Omaha 8 or better will heavily favor the better player.


nice suggestion at the end there and thanks for the tip... i too have been dipping into more omaha and stud games, trying to learn the games more and improve my all around poker game.. i absolutely love stud right now, but at this moment dont really care for any hi/lo games.. but i'm learning
 
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Omaha hi/low in Horse games

I play horse/limit tourneys on a regular basis and learnt that omaha is the key to winning there. Hold em is understood fairly well by most players, razz is fairly simple (although some players still don't know when to play or fold), in stud hi/lo it's quite easy to tell what your hand's like after 4th street and there is omaha.
Keep in mind that there will be Holdem/Stud hi/Stud low/Razz/Omaha hi/Omaha low in the tourney so 1/3 of the game will be some sort of omaha and given the fact that many players play far too loose here there will be a great chance of commulating a lot of chips in the omaha rounds.
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drawing to the nuts also means if you have the nut flush draw on a paired flop your best bet is to fold there, mainly in a hand that contains four or more people. Remember that nut flush draw isn't really drawing for the nuts on a paired board.

Lead bet more often with your draws and your real hands if people won't stop pot betting in position, theres not gonna be much bluff raising in omaha compared to hold em. People will bluff raise you with draws that may realistically be favored.

The reason you need to try to make sure your 4 cards are coordinated is because you always want to have outs to a redraw just incase your in a scary situation, ex:

you have kqj10 flop comes k j 7, you bet pot and get raised. villain could have a wide range of hands here pending how he plays from a super straight draw, k j like you, a weaker 2 pair, or a set of kings jacks 7s. Say your not sure if he's bluffing or not but you think your ahead, you want another draw just incase your wrong and this case you have outs to possibly make a boat or the nut straight....

Now consider that same flop but you have kj54. You still have 2 pair, you bet it pot and get it raised. Now your read has to be spot on here, because all you can beat is a weaker 2 pair and a bluff here, if the villain has a mega draw you may actually be behind percentage wise on the flop, and he's got more live outs to every straight card he may need because you don't have any of the cards he may need. Note the difference between these 2 hands, this is a situation that happens somewhat often.


that advice mainly towards regular omaha, I'm not really to fond of hi/low because the low is so often used as a bailout, and it can be good with donks and fish sometimes, but they get bailed out often regular omaha these people can't be bailed out by a split pot because of a low. Plus smart omaha hi/low seemingly requires you to do away with a lot of good regular hands like for example kkQQ, thats not necessarily a good hand in hi/low. The Main point of omahi hi/low you want to "scoop" or win both hi low pots, only way your gonna really do that is play coordinated hands ranging from a-8, so every thing above that is heavily devalued in hi/low, this is the opposite in regular omaha.
 
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