Did I play this Wrong?

Dont have a hand history but here's the jist of it.

1,100 people in a $10 MTT. 43 people left.
I have 23,000 in chips and Blinds are 1,000/2,000 and $50 antes. Im dealt AA one from the button. Everyone folds to me. I don't want the Blinds to see a free flop but I do want action because i consider myself shortstacked (not much more than 10 BB). I raise the minimum (I realize this always gives the BB odds to call). Everyone folds and the BB calls, flop comes 7 2 9. BB moves allin and I call. He turns over 8 9 and catches another 9 on the turn and I'm out of the tourney.

Chip average at this time was approx. 35,000. Did I make the right move or should I always raise at least 3X the BB even though I'm likely only to rake the blinds. Give me your opinion please.

Thanks

Don't sweat it-you got your money in good and BB sucked out on you. You played it well- the only way you were getting your chips in better would be if the BB was on a complete bluff. As it was you were a huge favorite in the hand, he got extremely lucky.

no u got it down to u n 1 other the rest as they say is poker

I guess the only thing you could've done better was a bigger pre-flop raise.

You didn't play it badly. I would have done the same. You want to get as many chips as you can from the other guy, ya know, but when something like that happens, it's just bad luck for you, and one lucky call for the other guy.

A bigger pre-flop raise probably folds his hand. I have never been a fan of min raising. I find myself always calling with any two cards, especially if it folds around and I am one of the blinds. If the flop hits me well, I win big and its a easy fold and not much of a loss of chips.

I dont like the mini-raise, unless Im doing it with suited connectors in mid to late position, after some limpers, and want to juice the pot a bit. He sucked out on you, but would he have called if you had raised to 4xBB? Maybe not, and then you would have stole the blinds, not much, but you'd still be in the tournament.

Yes and No. I believe you got unlucky the way you chose to play it, but in hindsight, i would much rather rake the blinds than to get suckout out on the flop by letting my gambling opponent see a cheap flop.

nc_royals said:

Dont have a hand history but here's the jist of it.

1,100 people in a $10 MTT. 43 people left.
I have 23,000 in chips and Blinds are 1,000/2,000 and $50 antes. Im dealt AA one from the button. Everyone folds to me. I don't want the Blinds to see a free flop but I do want action because i consider myself shortstacked (not much more than 10 BB). I raise the minimum (I realize this always gives the BB odds to call). Everyone folds and the BB calls, flop comes 7 2 9. BB moves allin and I call. He turns over 8 9 and catches another 9 on the turn and I'm out of the tourney.

Chip average at this time was approx. 35,000. Did I make the right move or should I always raise at least 3X the BB even though I'm likely only to rake the blinds. Give me your opinion please.

Thanks

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I'm not so sure if you shudda called here. Depends.

Wus the guy a donkey? This might influence a call. But, if he wusa donk, that flop was a perfect donkey flop. Absolutly perfect. And you shouda recodnized that.

Jus Sayin


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Well it depends really. Since your sort of a short stack you want to make some money out of it. Of course you were in the right in this hand, but you got lucky that he got a 9 on the flop to go allin with you, and then you got unlucky. What you want is to extract as much money as you can from your opponent. You also only want one person against you since 2 is too much odds against you, plus the sum of money you bet more than you would when you want 2 callers is just enough to make up for that guy who isnt calling anyways. So... by raising around 3 times big blind, you can place an image of trying to buy the pot since your short stack... and if BB has a nice stack he might call or come over the top trying to make a "good play"... or he might fold, but even so you get the blinds. I know you want to make some money out of Aces, but think realistically, if someone has crap, he will only call a small bet and fold on the flop if he gets nothing, so you cant make much. If your opponent has a fair hand he will call your 3 times the bing blind and if he catches a pair you will make a decent profet most likely. Looking at it using probabilities it would be better to raise at least 3 times big blind cause of your image and how much you can possibly make in the future since bigger pots means bigger bets coming after the pots. In the end its up to your judgement as well as your reads. Good luck at the tables .

No you played it just right, just remember it the next time you crack someones aces

Unless the blinds are known for aggressively raising limpers, I'm a big opponent of slowplaying...and a mini-raise is slowplaying when you have a big pocketpair.

That said, you got your wish when your opponent hit one pair and went allin, effectively drawing to 5 outs (I exclude runner-runner from my calculations), so he was basically a 4-1 dog. However, people call mini-raises with pretty much anything, and he could've had a small pp set, an open-ended draw, or 2 pair. Then you would've been drawing slim in 2 of those 3 cases.

At an effective stack of 100 BBs I'm shoving AA and a ton of other stuff. If I'm called and win with AA, that provides cover for when I shove with A8s.

Lockyman said:

Yes and No. I believe you got unlucky the way you chose to play it, but in hindsight, i would much rather rake the blinds than to get suckout out on the flop by letting my gambling opponent see a cheap flop.

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This is horrible poker. Of course you would rather just rake the blinds after you know you got beat but 8 times out of 10 you win here so for the most part you want action. Just taking down the blinds everytime you have a big hand is not the way to a big stack. All hands have some risk, that's part of the deal in poker, but you have to play the odds and not get emotional when the short odds turn on you at times. That's part of the game. You had good odds to double up, just about 4-1 in your favor, so would you rather take down 10% of your stack 95% of the time or double up 80% of the time and go out the other 20%? I would much rather take my shot when the odds are so good because eventually you have to put your chips in the pot.

When the second 9 came you had a bad beat. He was on a 5 outer. If you pair the board he's on a 2 outer. If you hit an ace he's all done. getting beat is part of poker, but you're trying to lure people into putting their chips in the pot when you're way ahead, that's sort of the object of the game.