Did i play this right?

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was playing a live cash game(2-5, players: 9) i had bought in with just $100 and at this point had risen to $140 almost everyone else ~$300-500, was a fresh table, ~10-15 hands in im dealt KK in MP. Blind is called/folded to me, i raise it to $20, two other MP calls, and button calls.

Flop comes; 5c - As - 8d
I bet $20 (more or less a c-bet after seeing the ace)
1 MP folds
villian calls
button calls
Turn comes; 9h
I check (being unsure of the ace after 2 callers)
villain bets $50
button folds
I fold.

I assumed he had the ace after the call and bet on the turn, although i have started to think that he may have had something more like a 99,10-10, or JJ. assuming i had raised pre with something along the lines of KQs and such, and after the check decided to take the opportunity to represent a weak ace.

Please help clear my mind!
 
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He could have literally had anything at this point as people will call wide to a raise like that pre. You then c-bet 1/4th pot get two callers and check the turn. odds are you're pretty much beat and folding was the correct move on the turn.
 
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Was this a 2/5 NL game? If so, buy in with $500 and make it more preflop.
 
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Was this a 2/5 NL game? If so, buy in with $500 and make it more preflop.

Pretty much my thoughts. If you can't buy-in full to 2/5, drop down and play 1/2 with a full buy-in. Also, I know you said you were new to the table, but if multi-way pots have been the norm, you need to bet this bigger pre to thin the herd a little bit.

Your post-flop $20 bet is just spew. Its less than 1/4 PSB and with that many players it won't accomplish much. Against 3 other players you WILL get called by somebody. So, if you are going to bet the flop at all (highly questionable v. 3 opponents who all have position on you), you need to make your bet significantly bigger. Just realize that if you do this, you are essentially turning your hand into a bluff.

As for me, I hate to, but I'm against 3 opponents and out of position, I'm Check/calling a smallish flop bet and Check/folding to any significant betting.
 
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Also, I know you said you were new to the table, but if multi-way pots have been the norm, you need to bet this bigger pre to thin the herd a little bit.

just to clarify when i said fresh, i meant the table had just opened, so the 10-15 hands was how many that table had played all day, so not not much to base any player stats on.

And also, yeah i didn't buy in for as much as i could have, but i had some luck starting with just 200 the other day, with a decent triple up, and wanted to see if i could do the same with 100 and try maximise profits with minimal risks. But i have definitely learnt that 100 in 2-5 is very luck dependant, and not really worth the time.
 
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... and wanted to see if i could do the same with 100 and try maximise profits with minimal risks.

It's one or the other. How is buying in with the minimum maximizing your profits?
 
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... wanted to see if i could do the same with 100 and try maximise profits with minimal risks.

It's one or the other. How is buying in with the minimum maximizing your profits?

Yeah, you're thinking about this all backwards. By buying in for the minimum, you're actually minimizing your profit potential. Terrible if you feel you have a skill advantage over the majority of the table. Regardless, you defintely want to at least have the worst players at the table covered - they're the ones most likely to give you their stacks, and you can't really do that if you are sitting short-stacked.
 
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