did I play this poorly? QQ 2 diamond flop

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I raised preflop to 12$ (this is a 1-2 game)
flop was all smal cards, 2-4-7 2 diamonds. I bet 15 and turn was another diamond. Proceeded to all in and BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS had a flush (j-9 of diamonds) and ace-8 of diamonds.
 
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cant see the ace 8 going anywhere

imo you played correctly
 
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maybe check the turn?!?! What could your other TWO opponents have there that they'd have called with on the flop? Flush draw makes sense. Set makes sense. Of course I say that without knowing the history of those two or how they perceive you.
 
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I raised preflop to 12$ (this is a 1-2 game)
flop was all smal cards, 2-4-7 2 diamonds. I bet 15 and turn was another diamond. Proceeded to all in and BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS had a flush (j-9 of diamonds) and ace-8 of diamonds.

Hard to say if you played it well or not. What was your starting stack size? Your opponents? I mean if you started the hand at 100bb effective stacks, you shoved 85BBs into a ~50BB pot and 90% of the time you get called there you're overpair is no good. Now if you started as a shorty you probably should have moved in on the flop. As posted it's really impossible to tell.
 
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maybe check the turn?!?! What could your other TWO opponents have there that they'd have called with on the flop? Flush draw makes sense. Set makes sense. Of course I say that without knowing the history of those two or how they perceive you.

hehe the funny part is the guy with the jack high flush folded his hand and thought I had a full house x]

the guy with the ace-8 he liked to call alot of previous hands with very bad holdings like j-7 off etc so I didn't think he had shit lol
 
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Wow that must hurt , i would check maybe on the turn because there are 2 oppenents calling if there was 1 i would jam it all in from preflop but checking with 2 players still in the game is a better soultiom
 
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no you played coreectly but its hard for others to fold i experiecend this myself hard to fold when you trying to get flush just the way the cards came not your fault by any means
 
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I raised preflop to 12$ (this is a 1-2 game)
flop was all smal cards, 2-4-7 2 diamonds. I bet 15 and turn was another diamond. Proceeded to all in and BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS had a flush (j-9 of diamonds) and ace-8 of diamonds.
What were your positions?
Did you open raise preflop or did you 3 bet preflop?
How many limpers and callers preflop?
If you raised and got 2 callers and the flop is 2 diamonds then bet 3/4 pot on the flop.
Your bet was too small at $15 and should have been closer to $30.
 
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If you raised pre flop to $12 and got two callers the pot would have been $37 including the blinds - rake and bad beat jackpot dollar.

You should have charged them the full $30 on the flop or at least $25. However, it didn't matter both guys would have called $30 on the flop and the outcome of the hand would have been the same.
 
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BigD, I've read and replied to a couple of your posts and you seem to have decent preflop instincts​. Your preflop play isn't bad, you raise your good hands, your not afraid to 3 bet, and your hand selection is good, but you need to work on your post flop play.

I like that your first instinct is to CBet after raising preflop but your sizing is a little off and you might want to pay a little more attention to position and board texture.

In the hand above you correctly raised with QQ and followed with a CBet, also good. But your sizing was way too small, really not much more than your original bet.

This flop might look innocent enough, but there's a lot going on here. Any pair is going to call as well as any flush draw and possibly (but unlikely) some straight draws. While it's true that this flop misses many hands that would call a raise preflop, the ones that hit it will likely call most continuation bets. You likely have the best hand so why not go ahead and charge them for the privilege of seeing another card? Thomasguy above says $30. That sounds about right.

So on to the really bad stuff. You muffed the turn badly. You never mentioned starting stacks so I'm just going to assume you were all topped off, if so then your allin was a major spew. It looks like you panicked​ when the turn brought in the flush draw which is probably the most likely holding of at least one of your opponents.

It's okay to take your foot off the gas sometimes. In poker your winnings come as much from the money you don't lose as the money you do. A penny saved is a penny earned.

That said, you shouldn't get discouraged. You're asking the right questions and getting some good feedback. Results will follow.

GL
 
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I raised preflop to 12$ (this is a 1-2 game)

flop was all smal cards, 2-4-7 2 diamonds. I bet 15 and turn was another diamond. Proceeded to all in and BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS had a flush (j-9 of diamonds) and ace-8 of diamonds.



Your post is leaving out very important details. You haven't mentioned any position or how your opponents played. Where did you raise from? BB, UTG, cutoff? How many other ppl in the pot besides 3. The raise to $12 with QQ in mid to late position is acceptable. So you had ~$36 in the pot, $15 bet is lite especially if you hit a wet board like this. Not only do you have flush draws you have straights to avoid. It should have been $25-30 or more to make them pay for draws.
So you lead out with an all-in on turn when another diamond hit. Was it checked to you and then you shoved? So many unanswered questions but yes you did blow this hand.
 
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I raised preflop to 12$ (this is a 1-2 game)
flop was all smal cards, 2-4-7 2 diamonds. I bet 15 and turn was another diamond. Proceeded to all in and BOTH OF MY OPPONENTS had a flush (j-9 of diamonds) and ace-8 of diamonds.

Ask yourself who will/can call you? JJ-AA, Sets, trips (unlikely but a a2s call on the button isn't unheard of), quads, and flushes. There are 2 people in the pot. Why not try to extract value from 88-JJ by betting 1/2 pot instead of shoving. If you're going to go all in anyway at least you can potentially induce semi bluffs from something like ak-aj with the ace of diamonds. All in all, I hate the shove.
 
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