Can I make 3/6 limit live a job?

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I play a lot and don't want to risk playing 1/3 regardless of the higher upswing. Anyway I am determined to make 3/6 live a 50 dollar a day second job and when it comes down to it my 12.00 dollar an hour job after taxes is about 50 bucks. So how can I beat this game 8 out of 10 times everytime? I have analyzed this game diligently and found hands like aj spades more often than not gets you flops like 5-10-4 two spades and you either raise it or check call and hit or lose 30 bucks in the process very swingy...

Is playing top 10 hands possibly the only way to play this game consistently? I have tried it all as well from hyper aggressive with some success,however in the end it seems a break even strategy and very swingy and only good for table image.


Iv'e found also that sometimes hands like 5-7 out of position flops 2 pair and it was good this is why bad players win sometimes in this game

I am however thinking playing only pp might be a king strategy in this game never raise always play the same and value bets sets any thoughts?
 
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I know people that play 1/2 for a living so yeah def u can make as much on 3/6 as in comparission to a "regular" job but it all depends on how capable you´re in generating a high enough hourly to make this true for you.
 
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i was about to answer but then 57o being a nice hand and something about low flushes made me laugh...i play this games live and also 5/10 in a very tough card room full of regs and some online pros...and i am making money...even from 2/5 i have sessions where i cash out more than 1000$
 
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I play a lot and don't want to risk playing 1/3 regardless of the higher upswing. Anyway I am determined to make 3/6 live a 50 dollar a day second job and when it comes down to it my 12.00 dollar an hour job after taxes is about 50 bucks. So how can I beat this game 8 out of 10 times everytime? I have analyzed this game diligently and found hands like aj spades more often than not gets you flops like 5-10-4 two spades and you either raise it or check call and hit or lose 30 bucks in the process very swingy...

Is playing top 10 hands possibly the only way to play this game consistently? I have tried it all as well from hyper aggressive with some success,however in the end it seems a break even strategy and very swingy and only good for table image.


Iv'e found also that sometimes hands like 5-7 out of position flops 2 pair and it was good this is why bad players win sometimes in this game

I am however thinking playing only pp might be a king strategy in this game never raise always play the same and value bets sets any thoughts?

First thing to do is to stop going to the casino or poker room. Find a trade school or college and become educated and able to earn a living at a stable job. After 30-40 years you can retire and have a retirement check coming in monthly and you'll be able to sit with the old folks that populate this game. BTW you'll never be able to support yourself at a 3/6 level much less win on a consistent basis.
 
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i was about to answer but then 57o being a nice hand and something about low flushes made me laugh...i play this games live and also 5/10 in a very tough card room full of regs and some online pros...and i am making money...even from 2/5 i have sessions where i cash out more than 1000$



Or you lose 1000 dollars that's no limit.
 
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First thing to do is to stop going to the casino or poker room. Find a trade school or college and become educated and able to earn a living at a stable job. After 30-40 years you can retire and have a retirement check coming in monthly and you'll be able to sit with the old folks that populate this game. BTW you'll never be able to support yourself at a 3/6 level much less win on a consistent basis.



Get a job you sure your in the right forum man?
 
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Be aware of position. Stay aggressive. Stay tight before the flop. Always keep track of how many bets are in the pot. Observe your opponents and adapt to their styles of play.

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Get a job you sure your in the right forum man?
It’s quite possible that he is thinking, from your opening post, that your skill level is not enough to be a poker pro, at least good one. This can be changed though by studying a lot, but it will take time.
 
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In California brick + mortar casinos the house rake makes any small game all but unbeatable ! That's one reason aspiring pros move to Las Vegas : the drops are much more reasonable .
 
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I have no problem with the rake.

I just enjoy 3/6 or 4/8 limit the rake is a non issue I mean they don't rake hands you fold and the pots are on average 35-40 bucks so who cares? I feel like I need to tighten up how many hands I play it seems to add up my leak is I peak at a lot of flops on soft tables and when the going is good I can with with q-8 off when I know my 8 is good and when I miss I fold and find 30 dollar down swings overtime even though i'm playing good. It all adds up I win about 85 bucks which is fine by me and it's tax free! The problem for me is consistency not being drawn out on or bad beats just winning every time even if it's 25 bucks.

My main goal is to win 8-10 sessions +85 then have 2 bad days where I get unlucky from the start and lose -85 cause it will happen and that's fine and will add up to 510 bucks a week or a week and a half that's a lot of dough for just playing a game :)
 
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Or you lose 1000 dollars that's no limit.

Sure you gonna lose sometimes, there are days that you do everything perfect but you can't win because of a guy who is gonna hit 2 outs or runner runner it's called varriance...my biggest loss there is 700eu my biggest cash out is 5.500+ overall i could live only by playing live poker but i also love my job...no i am trying to improve my online game.
 
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Good man I hate my job that's all
 
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at my local casino the 4/8 limit game takes 5$ of rake a pot LOL its like 200$ off the table every hour not worth playing.
 
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Yeah that's the rake not a big deal because people rebuy,the goal is to win pots not worry about the casino's take.
 
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'not a big deal " ? LOL . 5 bucks out of a 20 to 50 dollar pot can turn a + EV situation into big leak ! you might toke the dealer another dollar each won pot as well . I would suggest you do some more and deeper thinking Mike777 .
 
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6/12 limit is usually considered the lowest stake you can play for any sort of decent hourly at normal casino rake.
 
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I play a lot and don't want to risk playing 1/3 regardless of the higher upswing. Anyway I am determined to make 3/6 live a 50 dollar a day second job and when it comes down to it my 12.00 dollar an hour job after taxes is about 50 bucks. So how can I beat this game 8 out of 10 times everytime? I have analyzed this game diligently and found hands like aj spades more often than not gets you flops like 5-10-4 two spades and you either raise it or check call and hit or lose 30 bucks in the process very swingy...

Is playing top 10 hands possibly the only way to play this game consistently? I have tried it all as well from hyper aggressive with some success,however in the end it seems a break even strategy and very swingy and only good for table image.


Iv'e found also that sometimes hands like 5-7 out of position flops 2 pair and it was good this is why bad players win sometimes in this game

I am however thinking playing only pp might be a king strategy in this game never raise always play the same and value bets sets any thoughts?

You are speaking like a man who is trying to find patterns in a dice game. Thats what this post reminds me of anyway. "Like ive been studying super hard and i think everytime the dice roll out 6 and 5 and the six is on the left i double because usually the next roll is a 3 or 4, but sometimes i just leave because i dont want to let the security guys know im onto something"

Play a normal strategy, sure 57o might win some hands. If they flop 2 pair 3 way or HU the position is almost irrelevant to whether they will win or not it is just relevant in that if they are oop they will have a harder time extracting value.
 
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The rake is a huge deal at 3/6 HUUUGE
 
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Based on your posts in this thread you are NOT ready to play, at any level, for a living. I would suggest reading a few books on limit hold'em (I have no personal recommendations but maybe others can chime in). My guess, based on your posts, is that you are not currently capable of winning long-term at even the lowest stakes.
 
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I doubt you can make a living playing live 3/6 lhe, you can't beat the rake (Or at least where I play in CA you can't beat it). At most you can probably make a living playing 8/16 IMO.
 
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Great post, I'm glad you made it. I too am in the same shoes as you Mikeisanace777.

My game of choice is 3/6 limit holdem. You need to stop listening to all these idiots talking about this rake crap. These are people who just go by what they hear. I've been playing limit 3/6 with very moderate success. I will be honest though. It is a tough game to be consistently profitable but remember that comes down to the player. I work a full time job and play poker on the side. In 3/6 the pots can easily get up too 50$ or more.

Here are some key concepts i think are most important in 3/6

#1 Always study, study limit hold em or work on your game for 5 hours for every 20 hours you play. I can guarantee you will be a winning player if you did this.

#2 Have a good understanding of position, and pot odds, these are two very important factors in Limit 3/6

#3 You have to understand that every single bet counts in 3/6, your absolute main thought process well playing 3/6 is too make as least mistakes as possible. In any day/session i will typically average around 30-50$ in mistakes. That is your profit right there. You have to be a very keen and decisive player well playing 3/6

#4 One of the most very important things I can say is always stick to a game plan. Have an exact amount you want to win before you call it a day and if you lose your buy in call it a day. I strongly suggest not buying in 2-3 times in limit you will more then likely not win all that money back in one day it is a slow process. I can almost guarantee you r playing ability will drop after losing your buy in.

#5 3/6 is a game of making small profits on very small edges. Your bets should be mathematicallly correct.

Here are some huge examples of leaks in 3/6 (some that I really need to work on)

Do not every play tired after a 4-5 hour session i strongly suggest calling it a day. Never play poker tired.

One of the absolute main factors to making profit in 3/6 is learning how to correlate how many people are in the pot with what is on the board. You have got to understand that top pair rarely holds up. Realize that the only reason a person bets out on the river is with two pair or better in a 4 way pot.

Observe your opponents and see how they play. When they bet do they really have the hand or are they bluffers.

I don't suggest bluffing in 3/6 unless it is at a perfect timed bet. (you will sense it sometimes) Bluffing can lose you a lot of money in this game and is something I consider a leak.

I think you can EASILY make 50+ dollars a day on 3/6. In a matter of 2-3 hours. If it is 3/6 wKill you can win huge pots. Kill pots are very dangerous though. Make sure you have a very strong hand.

Remember study this game before actually doing it. If you are able to profit in 8 out of 10 sessions I would say that is incredible. But I can guarantee you! Those figures are impossible without studying daily. And continually working on your game. You will need every single edge you can get to win on 3/6. Every single edge. Here are my #s that I put up on 3/6. Obviously my last day just went terrible. I played poker for 30 hours straight. Which is when I end up losing tons. However I am a more profitable player then losing player at 3/6.

+87$ 12/24/16
+134$ 12/25/16 promo
+91$ 12/26/16
+87$ 12/29/16 san manuel
-300$ 1/1/17 san manuel
+300$ 1/14/17 san manuel promo
-120$ 1/15/17 morongo
-26$ 2/5/17 morongo
+93$ 2/6/17 morongo
+64$ 2/6/17 morongo
+72$ 2/7/17 morongo
+139$ 2/8/17 morongo
-260$ 2/8/17 morongo
+180$ 2/9/17 morongo
-7$ 2/10/17 morongo
+96$ 2/10/17 morongo promo HH
+77$ 2/10/17 morongo
Current balance: +707$ after 17 sessions
-120$ 2/11/17 San Manuel
-40$ 2/12/17 Morongo
-100$ 2/12/17 Morongo
+60$ 2/20/17 Morongo 2-4
+28$ 2/20/17 Morongo 2-4
-155$ 2/21/17 morongo 2-4
+40 3/6/17 morongo 2-4
-140$ 3/9/17 3/6 Morongo
-45$ 3/9/17 morongo 2/4
-40$ 3/10/17 morongo 2/4
+35$ 3/11/17 san manuel 3/6
+87$ 3/11/17 san manuel 3/6
+61$ 3/12/17 morongo 3/6 1 hour
Current balance: +378$
+20$ 3/13/17 san manuel 4-5 hours
-7$ 3/14/17 morongo 2 hours
-160$ 3/14/17 3/6 morongo 8 hour
+28$ 3/15/17 1 hour 2/4 san manuel
+63$ 3/15/17 3 hours 4/8 san manuel
+120$ 3/19/17 2 hours, morongo 2/4
+110$ 3/20/17 3 hours, morongo 3/6
+61$ 3/22/17 3 hours, morongo 2/4
-540$ 3/22/17, 3/23/17 morongo and san manuel 3/6 & 4/8
Current balance = +73$


I say stick with top tier hands.
From EP hands like A10 or better or pocket pairs

From LP play suited connectors only if you can limp in. Do not call a 6$ raise. You will end up trapping yourself with bottom or low pair and calling too see the turn (Massive leak)
 
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3/6 is beatable great reply and points to the last guy.

3/6 limit is actually a very easy game to beat I am now a winning player.yet I don't play as much as I ventured into video poker for a while making a quick hundo in 10 min is nice sometimes not to mention iv'e hit 2 royals for 2,000k - minus the losses of course.

The key to 3/6 as I consider myself a near expert now is in fact the players. Sometimes it's good to let players bluff on a river an call them down with the best hand to get 6 bucks you otherwise would have not got. I win about 17-20 bucks per hand and grind that up throughout the session to about a max of 115 and leave at +75 usually. A good key is to play solid bet the turn never check the turn big mistake and often check the river and call if a bad card falls otherwise check call you win/lose it's 50/50.. If the game is tight play tight,if the game is weak/solid simply fold a lot and wait for an idiot to sit down and isolate him. If it's a maniac table gamble with em play solid and better than most which usually dictates a bigger win. The problem with bluffing in this game is old timers will call you with aces and if your overaggressive they will fold on the flop when you only have say a pair of eights j8/ The best situation in this game is the calling station stay cool bet,bet,bet all streets she.. most likely will call you down with k9 one pair when you have a weak ace.
 
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Based on your posts in this thread you are NOT ready to play, at any level, for a living. I would suggest reading a few books on limit hold'em (I have no personal recommendations but maybe others can chime in). My guess, based on your posts, is that you are not currently capable of winning long-term at even the lowest stakes.

3/6 limit is actually a very easy game to beat I am now a winning player.yet I don't play as much as I ventured into video poker for a while making a quick hundo in 10 min is nice sometimes not to mention iv'e hit 2 royals for 2,000k - minus the losses of course.

The key to 3/6 as I consider myself a near expert now is in fact the players. Sometimes it's good to let players bluff on a river an call them down with the best hand to get 6 bucks you otherwise would have not got. I win about 17-20 bucks per hand and grind that up throughout the session to about a max of 115 and leave at +75 usually. A good key is to play solid bet the turn never check the turn big mistake and often check the river and call if a bad card falls otherwise check call you win/lose it's 50/50.. If the game is tight play tight,if the game is weak/solid simply fold a lot and wait for an idiot to sit down and isolate him. If it's a maniac table gamble with em play solid and better than most which usually dictates a bigger win. The problem with bluffing in this game is old timers will call you with aces and if your overaggressive they will fold on the flop when you only have say a pair of eights j8/ The best situation in this game is the calling station stay cool bet,bet,bet all streets she.. most likely will call you down with k9 one pair when you have a weak ace.

You should beat slots or roulette next. I stand by my earlier assessment.
 
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You would need to start with a high enough bankroll to keep you playing consistently through the ups and downs. There are lots of amateurs that play full time. They are also very very good at math. If this sounds like you, I'd say go for it. If not,avoid the disappointment.
 
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* You play Q-8 and hope to hit an 8 and know that it's good.

* You disregard the impact rake has on your overall return.

* You worry about swings, not understanding that they are a fundamental part of the game. They will happen, they will be big, and you won't be able to avoid them if you play right.

* Your goal is to win pots, not money. And/or have winning sessions.

* You play hands like 7-5 out of position in a limit game.

There's probably more. But, I didn't read most of it. You're clearly ready to go pro. Don't wait. Quit your other job and dedicate yourself to this. You can't lose!

Edit: If you're serious about getting good enough to beat these game, I recommend Ed Miller's "Small Stakes Hold'em" (red cover... older book). It's great for how to beat exactly these games. I haven't read it in years because there aren't many limit games left around, and I play good enough NL to profit handily from those games.
 
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