absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
I feel like there really isn't much strategy with these tourneys. When I have played these, you don't play early position unless you have premium hand, because someone in later position will probably push. Middle position, you can call with any face cards. Late position, premium hands down to about A8 will probably push(especially as blinds get higher). You absolutely cannot wait for hands here or you will definitely be blinded out. You also NEED to be aggressive to play these. There is no such thing as tightening up in a Hyper-Turbo....
Steveg1976
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Silver Level
Caveat - I don't play turbos.
My understanding of them is they basically force from the start high blind play sitauation. Despite what some people say (NN I am looking at you
), there is a strategy but it is based on ICM. Something I am not good at because I am lazy. Moshman covers it in Sit & Go strategy but there are programs that can calculate if for you by plugging in payouts and stack sizes and ranges. If you can master ICM you will crush turbos because most likely your opponents won't understand it. FWIW. Belgo is probably the best resource for this stuff.
My understanding of them is they basically force from the start high blind play sitauation. Despite what some people say (NN I am looking at you
), there is a strategy but it is based on ICM. Something I am not good at because I am lazy. Moshman covers it in Sit & Go strategy but there are programs that can calculate if for you by plugging in payouts and stack sizes and ranges. If you can master ICM you will crush turbos because most likely your opponents won't understand it. FWIW. Belgo is probably the best resource for this stuff.
absoluthamm
<==Poker Face
Silver Level
nevadanick
Back to work ... zzzzz
Silver Level
Caveat - I don't play turbos.
My understanding of them is they basically force from the start high blind play sitauation. Despite what some people say (NN I am looking at you
... I don't play them either ... but you are correct (imo) for the most part stating "If you can master ICM". The vastly HUGE majority ... cannot, and never will. They will ALWAYS be playing 'push and pray' hyper-t strategy. OP also asks about HYPER-t's, not just Turbo's (turbo's on steroids laced with LSD).I'm not attacking or 'putting down' shinedown's question here in any way ... but take a look at even that as just one example. He asks: "what kinds of hands should I be pushing" ... 'most' turbo and hyper-t players are only going as far as knowing 'pushing' hands to expect to "make it far". Mastering ICM? Heck, most don't even know what it is, much less understand it ... or even more important ... MASTER it. ...
That said, can they ever "make it far" in hyper-t's ?? No way !! I'll stick to my comment meant for the 'general' reader and player ... that it is 'push and pray'.
For the isolated (and very exceptional few) if they want to make it far, steveg is right. PROVIDED you want to play totally and almost exclusively by ICM, and it's those select few who will NOT be asking what Ax hand to push with ...
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LizzyJ
Legend
Silver Level
I've played lots of super turbos and lived to tell about them. Now I am slowly trying getting back in to real tournaments.
Anyways......
You learn to shove. Period. You live and die by pushing. You learn about how important kickers really are. You learn to push pocket pairs. You learn how much tilt/steam control you have. You learn how important it is to be the first to the pot. You learn not to be afraid.
When you run hot you make a ton of money. When you run cold you lose it quicker than you made it.
It was a nice experience *cough* but time to move on to greater fame and fortune.
Anyways......
You learn to shove. Period. You live and die by pushing. You learn about how important kickers really are. You learn to push pocket pairs. You learn how much tilt/steam control you have. You learn how important it is to be the first to the pot. You learn not to be afraid.
When you run hot you make a ton of money. When you run cold you lose it quicker than you made it.
It was a nice experience *cough* but time to move on to greater fame and fortune.
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tdude
Rock Star
Silver Level
my hyper turbo advice is do not play in them. sure the quick winning seems intrigueing, but it comes down to pretty much luck. i however, am guilty in playing in a few of them. they are too risky, but i found that i need to go all in with any semi decent hand. but yeah i would suggest turbo sit n gos if you want quicker games, but not the hyper turbos
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lewis010
Rock Star
Silver Level
yes my advice for you is to push with a decent hand and prey to win it...
remember that you start with 10 BB so there isnt too many options really... in my case i just play hyper turbos with these 2 options... ALL IN or FOLD.
jdeliverer
Legend
Silver Level
It's bingo where you get more cards the more effectively you use icm.
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Cdub512
Legend
Silver Level
Dont play in them, i think theres too much luck involved in this tournament. People who go all in for these have such a wide range of hands to go all in with. This especially happens at the beginning of one of these.
I would just avoid them unless you feel like doing one of these to try and satellite to a bigger tournament.
I would just avoid them unless you feel like doing one of these to try and satellite to a bigger tournament.
Dagon7
Rock Star
Silver Level
My experience is similar, but the profit, especially on the 45 plr 3.80 sngs, is there, it just takes a willingness to lose with the best hand a lot, training I think I have attained from playing way to many freerolls. unfortunatly ICM wont help get you to the final table, and nearly impossible to figure out for 45 players anyway, but once past the bubble it really could make a huge difference as normally the stacks are incredibly scewed at this point with one player holding 50% of the chips and the rest devided among the other 5. I play these tight, try to get in on multiway limp pots and get lucky in position is the only real advice I can give except that preflop is horrible time to get too aggressive, think Rock not Shark for the first half, think low ball for the second.