Generally when people are playing loose you tighten up, and when people are playing too tight you can loosen up a bit.
Though it is hard to move to tables when there in every game.... I will keep it in my mind next ring game i play.. thanksI agree with most of the above. I'd play it like Nickmond said...wait and wait, then pounce hard. But, it can be expensive to chase a draw to a monster. One other option, if this raiser is clearly trying to bully the table, is to move to another table.
3 bet him, have position, and play top pair like nuts and let him do the betting when you hit.
I disagree slightly with the sit back and wait for a monster advice or maybe I just disagree on what a monster is against a guy who's like a 90/50 type. Against these players I'll play for stacks preflop with hands like AT+/KJ+. Yes it's high variance but long-term it's profitable. You really need to take these guys $$ while they still have it (because they never do for very long) and it never hurts your image if people see you shove 100BB over a 3bet with AJ.
I agree with all this except the story telling part as it dont really pertain that much to your problem at hand.I would advise to tighten up and wait for your monster hand.Playing against guys like this is just like live poker.I have seen it too many times playing live as well.People play any two cards and may lose on average $15-35 a hand but when they win it will felt someone.These kinda people have more money they you and you know what they say "Big bank takes little Bank".I try to avoid tables like this.Sometimes the hands just never come and when it does show-up it gets sucked out on and like Nick said you will find a continuation thread in Bad Beats...At 2nl it would be a common problem I think. Not much different than a freeroll, imo. Many raisers like that are there for the fun, entertainment and excitement - not the profit. They want a story they can tell to their buddies at the water cooler or the local bar later about 'how I took this monster hand down'. Their losses are never mentioned.
Maybe they simply read a book and followed selective memory priciples. "Be aggressive in those certain positions, the raiser always wins the pots."
You may also be playing the kings and queens of the lotto/bingo world. They really don't care what hand they are playing. ATC can win. Some advice above says to lay in wait for your own monster to take them down. Who says you WILL? The next post will be in the Bad Beat forum threads about "what was this #$%hole thinking...??"
If you're running pretty hot or above variance, you'll win some. If not, your br is suffering. If there are 'always' raisers like that at every 2nl table and you can't just keep moving, remember, you are playing penny ante poker with Uncle Fred and Aunt Martha who brought their jars of pennies with them for the weekend game.
I have to go after them, they are coming after me at the tables now....At 2nl it would be a common problem I think. Not much different than a freeroll, imo. Many raisers like that are there for the fun, entertainment and excitement - not the profit. They want a story they can tell to their buddies at the water cooler or the local bar later about 'how I took this monster hand down'. Their losses are never mentioned.
Maybe they simply read a book and followed selective memory priciples. "Be aggressive in those certain positions, the raiser always wins the pots."
You may also be playing the kings and queens of the lotto/bingo world. They really don't care what hand they are playing. ATC can win. Some advice above says to lay in wait for your own monster to take them down. >>>>>>>>>>>>Who says you WILL? The next post will be in the Bad Beat forum threads about "what was this #$%hole thinking...??"<<<<<<<<<<
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If you're running pretty hot or above variance, you'll win some. If not, your br is suffering. If there are 'always' raisers like that at every 2nl table and you can't just keep moving, remember, you are playing penny ante poker with Uncle Fred and Aunt Martha who brought their jars of pennies with them for the weekend game.
I will call with low PP on themOriginally Posted by WVHillbilly
I disagree slightly with the sit back and wait for a monster advice or maybe I just disagree on what a monster is against a guy who's like a 90/50 type. Against these players I'll play for stacks preflop with hands like AT+/KJ+. Yes it's high variance but long-term it's profitable. You really need to take these guys $$ while they still have it (because they never do for very long) and it never hurts your image if people see you shove 100BB over a 3bet with AJ.
To let you know this is for a ring table 2nl .01/.02 and not a tourney... Though the ones in tourneys are easy to nailAlot of sound advice here guys.
There's nothin worse than when one of those all-inners goes all-in with K-3 os the first hand of a tourney and doubles or triples up.
Nothing frustrates me more than putting up with their constant all-ins, then getting a hand like K-Q s and running into A-K. I know K-Q is not an all in hand but I have done it out of pure frustration.
IMO, the key to taking these A-holes down is P-A-T-I-E-N-C-E! And lets face it, poker is a game of patience and picking the right spots with a little splash of luck on top!!!