How to put someone on a range

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stating at micro 2nl under rolled with $25 renewable. Playing for fun now. Is it possible to range your opponents at 2nl?

To range an opponent is to put them on a range of hands. Will your range beat their range?
Will they pay you off? What should the bet size be to maximize your profit?
 
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At 2nl regular you use bet sizes + action to put them to a range especially if villain is unknown not that much board cards except for fine-tuning.
 
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If your using a hud that can help you put someone on a range.And like the above poster said bet sizing can be a good indicator to a players hand strength.Also take notes of anything that stands out in their play that might indicate the player type.
 
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I'm on a table. Does not support tracking software.
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Not sure

I am not sure that you can put people in a range of hands the way they play any two cards today.
 
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Free and "sub-micro" games... Any two play with a limp and call to a min-raise, Any Ace is a raising hand, suited-Ace is shoving hand, any pair are big bets... Good luck finding a "range" on a player even at $1/$3 live let alone ¢.01/¢.02.
 
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It's hard to put anyone on a specific hand, same goes for range.

You can assess to a degree how dramatic the risk an opponent is willing to take, how likely they are to bluff or if they bet only with a strong holding within a reasonable time frame by paying attention to their patterns of play, like when and how they bet.

You should be doing this from the moment you start playing.

So, yes, in my opinion you can put an opponent on a hand, but you need to have a process by which you determine why they might have a particular holding.
 
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More aggressive they play the better the hand sets two pair
 
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stating at micro 2nl under rolled with $25 renewable. Playing for fun now. Is it possible to range your opponents at 2nl?

To range an opponent is to put them on a range of hands. Will your range beat their range?
Will they pay you off? What should the bet size be to maximize your profit?

I disagree with those saying it isn’t possible. Everyone has tendencies, even if they are bad ones.

I strongly suggest going into Equilab and messing with different percentages. Once you understand what hands are in 10%, you can translate that to players you face. Not having a tracking software is tough, but try and keep notes and notice how many and what hands people are playing. Once you have that, you can put people on ranges based on their bets.


For example, if you see someone playing extremely tight and never raising pre flop, and then they reraise you from the big blinds, you can probably put them on JJ or better.
 
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Free and "sub-micro" games... Any two play with a limp and call to a min-raise, Any Ace is a raising hand, suited-Ace is shoving hand, any pair are big bets... Good luck finding a "range" on a player even at $1/$3 live let alone ¢.01/¢.02.


Dude, dont "help" anymore...AXs shoving... Go to study
 
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I think he was referring to other player’s actions- but probably still a bit exaggerated.

You will see player’s shove with AX when an ace hits the flop, however, regardless of the board and kicker.
 
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stating at micro 2nl under rolled with $25 renewable. Playing for fun now. Is it possible to range your opponents at 2nl?

To range an opponent is to put them on a range of hands. Will your range beat their range?
Will they pay you off? What should the bet size be to maximize your profit?


You can range opponents at any table. Every single person has a different range and maybe they change it when they change the limits they are playing at, but everyone is going to play differently.

I've played 2NL at wsop and ACR. I have seen a mix of players that are attempting to play for real and players that will be erratic.

Something that you should pay attention to that can help you identify this would be the size of the bets. At a 2NL game, standard raises of 0.04-0.10 are a good indication that people are playing to win and not playing bingo. If the raises are constantly over 0.30 (15BB), then their range is basically everything.

Avoid tables like that if you don't want to gamble.

Once you find a 2NL table, putting them on a range just takes time. You have to see what they are playing.

Will your range beat their range?
That is like asking is my car faster than your car? It depends on the players at the table. Or like asking will there be a certain percentage of one ethnicity... It just doesn't have a straight forward answer.

The same applies for your other two questions.

If you would like to try and figure out a range, pay attention to every chance you get to see their hand. Make sure that you exclude their hand if they were the BB and didn't raise to see the flop. Those hands won't count for the persons range.

Did you see them play J7o?? Then they probably play K9o...

Haven't seen anything like T9o, 98o? Never seen them play unsuited connectors lower than broadways? They don't play in that many hands? Then they probably don't have that Q8o.

Hope that helps some.
 
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generally gonna use ranges for betting a hand that makes sense with line he takes then on river if you think can bluff start tryiing to look at his tendencies with hud or what you have seen and then see what bluff run outs hes capable if you can beat enough that range high enough percentage compared to pot ratio can hero sometimes this will also open image id adivse to play solid range people at low stakes just blast off money with no idea many times hard to play real poker when not enough money is at stake but this is great traning ground to learn the game
 
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when playing 2NL you will come across a wide range off players but most off them are just doing this for the fun and often dont put much tactics behind the way they play and dont have a specific strategy. Because off this its a bit more difficult to put them on a hand but you can still see what kind off player they are
 
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stating at micro 2nl under rolled with $25 renewable. Playing for fun now. Is it possible to range your opponents at 2nl?

To range an opponent is to put them on a range of hands. Will your range beat their range?
Will they pay you off? What should the bet size be to maximize your profit?

I'm gonna make an assumption here. You seem to say that $25 is renewable and that makes me think you can afford to redeposit repeatedly. The cash folks are gonna love you!

I suggest you get a tracker, you can try out the major ones for a month. Once you get some numbers into that tracker about names that keeps showing up at the tables you play, you can begin to get an idea about what those players do. The bigger the numbers, the more accurate info you have, and thus the better you can put them on a range.

This might take many sessions to accomplish. But if you learn the trackers well, AND get decent numbers (hands) on multiple players, you will begin to glean things that you won't be gleanning without a tracker.

Simplest example; You have 500 hands on a player and he shows a VPIP of 24, without delving into the positional aspects, you can glean his opening range by looking at the top 24% of poker hands. Charts can be found via google. <<< This is a very simplified example. Position matters.
 
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Putting someone on a range

Im looking for several different things when putting someone on a range, these are:

The number of hands they play
The positions they play from
Their betting patterns
Making a note of hands that go to showdown and what position they were in

More often than not, i can generally put good players on a range after approximately 60 hands - loose aggressive donkeys less so! lol

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I'm on a table. Does not support tracking software.
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on nl2 its too dif to put them any range
a lot of notes, a LOT and remember nicks which one u can see too many times in a roll and their stack goes up(that means they are regs and u can imagine their range and u can check who are they are by sharkscope)
 
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