How to reraise TT,JJ or AKo from MP?

DonV73

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Hi everyone,

I play 10NL (Full Ring) and I am often confronted with doubt when I have to 3bet (or not?) and how much I should 3bet with, against a reg or a fish.

This is when a player, UTG or EP, makes a preflop raise to 3bb. I am in MP and I get a hand like TT,JJ or AKo. Most of the time I reraise around 3x the original raise but notice that when he calls, that I am often behind on the flop, so I am notsure I I played those hands correctly.

I want to accomplish that I end up heads up against the original raiser, so when I reraise it has to be enough to get the rest out and not too much to get the original raiser scared.

So, as a general rule/guideline, would be the correct action here? reraise? how much? why? and what would you do with smaller pairs like 77 or 88 or 99 ?

Thanks guys
 
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28 views and 0 replies? it was not a difficult question, was it? :p
 
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I play the same level.

Lets talk about regs.

- You need to look at his opening range and his fold to 3bet%.
If his range is tight and he folds to 3bets a lot then yes every time you see a flop you are behind unless he has AK and has missed. (I see some people flatting AA/KK here because they know 4bet gives it away while just flatting OOP is good for trapping you since a lot of time you cbet twice and then basically value yourself.)
- Sizing of 3x his open is standard and quite OK.
- If he 4bets then you are well behind.
- Some of these guys like to setmine even OOP vs 3bets - if he is this type then he probably doesn't fold that much vs 3bets and you will see it in the stats.

So vs this "stickier" of reg you might want to flat to set mine or even try to push him off his hand when boards are wet - if he has small PP that missed or AK it should be doable. Basically your 3bet is kind of pointless if you fold out everything you are ahead of.

As for the fish, well, they don't fold to 3bets much so yeah, just 3bet them and play postflop with position and initiative.
 
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I play 6max 5nl so only my opinion I'm no expert.

I'd call with smaller pairs and go set mining as long as their not short stacked if they are then I'd be folding 77's 88's,99's.

So many variables to take into account, is the EP raiser a nit, loose passive,LAG,TAG this all changes our decisions do they fold to 3bets or generally call or 4bet.

I would generally assume EP raise at FR to be pretty strong, now I play 6max 5nl so it may be a bit more aggressive at 10nl not sure about FR though. Prob call with 10's,JJ's and 3bet AK if villains 4bets I would probably fold AK. Yeah I'm a nit.
 
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I play 6m also, but I think that flatting JJ and TT vs an ep opener would be totally fine, possibly better. against fish you can do whatever I guess.

AK I would say it depends on how often they defends 3bs with weaker than AK, and how often they 4b bluff.
 
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For my opinion when you have TT or JJ and somebody before you make a raise 3xBB, than you should only call, not re-raise. When you had AK and somebody before you also make raise 3xBB then you can re-raise 3 x his raise.
But everything of this depend of how much chips you have on the table. If you have more than 12BB than you should play like as above. But if you have less than 12BB then you have to be more aggressive and play more cards, so with less than 12BB you can go all-in with 77,88,99,TT,JJ,QQ,KK,AA,AK.
 
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Thanks guys for your input, I appreciate it :)
 
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I agree with Abedin. The only other thing to consider is the player. Are they over aggressive? If you've had time to understand the style of player and recognize that they raise with a weak Ace, such as A5s, you may consider re-raising pro flop with 10's of better. I personally dont like mid range pocket pair with a raise in front of me. I tend to throw them away. Most likely, you are either already behind, or a coin flip if your opponent has 2 over cards.
If you can get in those hands cheap, say a limp in, or your the initial raiser, go for it. Otherwise, your exploring shark infested waters. Its nice when you hit a set but costly when you dont.
Hope that helps.
Shep!
 
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I treat TT, JJ, and smaller pairs similarly there and just call and see the flop and see what EP does first. AKo 3x reraise is probably good. If you miss the flop, just semi-bluff/c-bet.
 
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I 3-bet JJ in position (or OOP for that matter) for value vs. anyone unless they only raise 2% of hands or so.

TT/99 and worse, it depends on the action so far and players behind. Squeezing to get HU can sometimes be a good option.
 
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