Originally Posted by Beasty2k
Vs unknowns at 10 & 25NL, I find it very hard to figure out whether we're good with an overpair on say 247r board in a 3-bet pot. Some villains might shove 88 but when are we beat and not?
Do we just close eyes and try to GII on flop with JJ/TT/99 when villain doesn't give up aggression? Shove ourselves? Call a shove? And just consider it a cooler when he shows up with QQ+?
1) Say we open CO with JJ, BTN 3-bets, we call. Flop 247r, we can lead, c/c or c/r... say we c/r and he jams. Now what?
2) Say we are IP, we open CO with JJ, SB 3-bets, we call. Flop 247r, he cbets, we raise, he jams... now what?
I guess a 4bet pre is an option but nevermind that for the sake of this thread, focus on flop without initiative.
As already stated, completely player-dependent. In example 1, if villain is 3betting frequently, it'd probably be safe to 4bet him preflop. If you flat, it's definitely safe to be getting it all in on the flop against a frequent 3bettor.
In example 2, though it is also player-dependent, you have to narrow villain's range because he is 3betting when OOP.
It's not a simple question, really. In general, you may want to be very reluctant to GII against a nit and more willing to do so against a LAG.