How to play against a limper?

This is the situation:

I have one guy siting at a table that has a vpip of 50%. I saw him limp/call with KK in one hand.

Now supose you are on the button holding KTs and this guy is already in the hand, and there isn't any other limper.

¿What do you do in this situation?

That's kinda vague. What are limits? Are there any other limpers in the hand?....did he raise postflop with the kings?...what's his agression factor?...what are other stats you have on him...? Make a standard raise, but be prepared to fold if he fires back big at you when you missed....unless you have a pretty good read at him....just make sure to use pot control...he can't have kings every time...

If he has a VPIP over 50 and limped/called KK's he is donkey.

Raise preflop with good starting hands in position
bet good hands,
profit....

This is why i'm asking:

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
Hero ($5)
BB ($4.88)
UTG ($2.15)
UTG+1 ($8.14)
UTG+2 ($2.88)
MP1 ($2.21)
CO ($2.59)
BTN ($1.93)

Dealt to Hero A:club: 9:club:

UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, UTG calls $0.20

FLOP ($0.55) T:club: J:club: Q:diamond:

Hero bets $0.35, UTG calls $0.35

TURN ($1.25) T:club: J:club: Q:diamond: J:diamond:

Hero checks, UTG bets $0.30, Hero raises to $0.80, UTG calls $0.50

RIVER ($2.85) T:club: J:club: Q:diamond: J:diamond: K:heart:

Hero checks, UTG bets $0.75 (AI), Hero calls $0.75

UTG shows K:club: K:spade:
(Pre 68%, Flop 54.3%, Turn 75.0%)

Hero shows A:club: 9:club:
(Pre 32%, Flop 45.7%, Turn 25.0%)

UTG wins $4.06

I know i didn't play the hand very well but i couldn't belive when he show KK

Against a passive calling station, A9s in the sb is a fold. Also notice he has only has 43bb, he will be pot committed quickly. Just fold non premiums in the future against him.

Also don't stay at tables with more than 1 or 2 players with less than 100bb stacks. I see 5 at this table short.

Also don't stay at tables with more than 1 or 2 players with less than 100bb stacks. I see 5 at this table short.

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I haven't noticed that. Thanks for the advice

most of the time he's just got crap. he's probably a noob or a moron...a lot of really bad players i think...want to be a turn/river check-raiser...they think its sneaky...and sometimes it even works out for them. i'm not a ring player at all...but if someone held a gun to my head and said "play that A9s in the sb"..then i would have raised 4.88, enough to put BB and KK dude all-in. yeah, he woulda called you, yeah, he would have won, and yeah, you'd be a little pissed that he limped with KK...just gotta keep an eye on people though. i think i definitely would have folded that A9s to any limps or raises, UTG or whoever, you're still oop. someone or anyone can feel free to call me a moron though

In answer to your original question, you just wait for premium hands to play against such players.
When you hit your monster hands, that type of limper will not be able to put down any overpair to any bet and you will be able to milk him/her out of most if not all of the chips.

your first question... I would just call the limp w KTs OTB against this guy.

Hand example,... I'd complete SB here & see a flop (why not.. it's cheap and with a speculative hand like that, you might be winning large from him). I don't want to be raising out of position with A9s.

How to play Loose/Passive calling stations.... I disagree with just sitting there and waiting for premiums... for one it's a short-handed table. If you can see a flop for cheap in position with a good speculative hand.. then why not? If I've got a premium hand I'm raising to isolate this guy,.. and raising enough to see where I'm at (in 5NL FR and even 10NL on many tables) I'm raising 5x preflop with most hands I'm opening with... too often you'll get on a table where a 3x raise gets flatted by half the table.

Also, when playing a loose calling station... I'm not leading out on draws (semi-bluffing) and instead more apt to check behind.
If you flop a big hand, bet it aggressively and take them to value town, trying to get at least 2 if not 3streets of value out of them.

Maybe limping with my A9s was the better option here. I wasn't paying that much atention to the limper when i raised. My goal was to pick the dead money and continue with the next hand.

Surprise.. i run into KK, and the guy doesn't reraise me. I played the hand so badly on the turn also, the reraise was too small to chase anyone .

It's a good thing i posted this hand so i can realize my mistakes too.

Not sure a bigger bet on the turn would've done anything here...he had an overpair and open-ended straight draw, drawing to the 2nd nuts and a straight.

A limp with a KK is so odd, i just wonder how the fellow had been playing before. Was he really a calling station? Or did he normally bet out with lesser hands, trying to take pots down early? Yes, a VPIP of 50% is crazy-- but over what period of time? how many hands? He could have been on a streak of great hands and was simply tired of raising and having everyone fold.

Did you play it badly? Well, you were SB and it doesn't suck to complete the A9s. Then when the flop comes and gives you some nice draws, I have no problem with you betting out here. He did nothing to alert you at that point -- could have had anything from one pair to the nuts. On the turn, when he raised-- that's where your antennae should have gone up. You still had nothing and the board could have made your still-incomplete draws worthless. Calling a re-raise here... ummm. I'd say no, depending on your read of him from other plays. Does he bluff much at pots? If he has been bluffing at dangerous boards, a raise to his re-raise could have been interesting.

Given how he played it, without knowing a lot more about him, there is no reason to believe he had KK here. Could as easily had QJ or JT -- either of which is the sort of hand some people call with UTG. Both, of course, beat whatever you could draw.

I always play KK like this. It tricks people.

Steveg1976 said:

Against a passive calling station, A9s in the sb is a fold. Also notice he has only has 43bb, he will be pot committed quickly. Just fold non premiums in the future against him.

Also don't stay at tables with more than 1 or 2 players with less than 100bb stacks. I see 5 at this table short.

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Do not fold A9s Vs a loose player when in the SB, ever. This is way too tight. You are ahead of his range of hands.

Poker Orifice said:

your first question... I would just call the limp w KTs OTB against this guy.

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With KTs you should raise a single limper in late position. You are ahead of his range of hands, you can take down the pot with a continuation bet a decent amount of the time even when you do not hit your pair or draw.

mmmm

Smileyphil said:

I always play KK like this. It tricks people.

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Always doing the same thing with the same cards aint always the right thing.

You may wanna re-think that idea

UTG figured you had an ace and was worried you had a A10. Saw the potential straight but held on in hopes of hitting an ace for his own straight and just was not willing to totally give up. OR he figured he could slow play you and build the pot for himself. That King on the felt made him nervous that you had the straight.