How often do two players make a flush by the river?

Just wondered how often 2 players hit a flush by the river I'm tilting a bit today due to a few bad beats but 3 times I have lost to a higher flush. I'm starting to want to play more cautiously when on any flush draw unless I hold the ace.

I probably could have folded pre-flop but I was tilting a bit and decided to play this one last hand before having a break.

Should I just call the river bet.

PokerStars - $0.02 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

Hero (BB): $2.23
UTG: $1.24
MP: $2.69
CO: $1.77
BTN: $1.27
SB: $1.30

SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has 5:spade: 3:spade:

fold, MP raises to $0.04, fold, fold, SB calls $0.03, Hero calls $0.02

Flop: ($0.12, 3 players) J:spade: 8:diamond: T:heart:
SB checks, Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: ($0.12, 3 players) 4:spade:
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $0.10, SB calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

River: ($0.42, 3 players) 6:spade:
SB bets $0.10, Hero raises to $0.44, fold, SB calls $0.34

Hero shows 5:spade: 3:spade: (Flush, Jack High) (Pre 35%, Flop 20%, Turn 14%)
SB shows Q:spade: 7:spade: (Flush, Queen High) (Pre 65%, Flop 80%, Turn 86%)
SB wins $1.25

idk, but lol at SB just calling.

Fold pre-flop.

This is why I like sooted aces
Just remember for each time this happens the same thing should happen but in your favour just as many time in the longrun. (in the near infinite longrun)

poker stars $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 2218823
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Hero (UTG): $101.50
CO: $38.50
BTN: $146.46
SB: $253.41
BB: $129.52

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with 9 :spade: A :spade:
Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9.00) Q :spade: J :spade: 9 :diamond: (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $8, SB calls $8, BB calls $8

Turn: ($33.00) 5 :spade: (3 players)
SB bets $19, BB calls $19, Hero calls $19

River: ($90.00) A :heart: (3 players)
SB bets $42, BB calls $42, Hero raises to $71.50 all in, SB calls $29.50, BB calls $29.50

Final Pot: $304.50
Hero shows 9 :spade: A :spade: (a flush, Ace high)
SB mucks T :spade: 8 :spade:
BB mucks 6 :spade: 4 :spade:
Hero wins $301.70
(Rake: $2.80)

fold pre, fold turn

Lol at the people telling you to fold that pre.. Yeah it would have been the right play.. But get real, play some damn poker, it was .2 more to try and protect his BB.. What is unfortunate for you is that nobody bet the flop, cause that woulda been an easy lay down. But then you hit the draw, I woulda called the .10 too. On the river that raise was not good, look at that board, pretty draw heavy and hes only going to call with a better hand, your flush is just so low. He may call a raise with two pair but probably not and if he had two pair he would have bet the flop and bet more on the turn and probably checked the river if you kept calling. This happens but it is more likely that it wont be flush over flush. Unfortunate mate. LOL at his river bet and call.

masondub said:

Lol at the people telling you to fold that pre.. Yeah it would have been the right play.. But get real, play some damn poker, it was .2 more to try and protect his BB.. What is unfortunate for you is that nobody bet the flop, cause that woulda been an easy lay down. But then you hit the draw, I woulda called the .10 too. On the river that raise was not good, look at that board, pretty draw heavy and hes only going to call with a better hand, your flush is just so low. He may call a raise with two pair but probably not and if he had two pair he would have bet the flop and bet more on the turn and probably checked the river if you kept calling. This happens but it is more likely that it wont be flush over flush. Unfortunate mate. LOL at his river bet and call.

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Thing is though, villain stack size is not a full one. Think we need maximum implied odds here to call even a minraise with suited garbage?

Barring reads I call pre, fire a quick half-pot probe on the flop to see if I get folds, and when I don't and turn my FD just check/call since I have terrible RIOs vs better flushes.

I don't have a problem with the raise on riv. Hindsight is 20-20, but obv not that thin. getting value against a ton of worse hands n VERY few are better at that point.

Aleksei said:

Barring reads I call pre, fire a quick half-pot probe on the flop to see if I get folds, and when I don't and turn my FD just check/call since I have terrible RIOs vs better flushes.

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what would make you fire half pot on flop?are you allergic to chips

i just had this happen to me i was on the low end other guy had the ace i was betting on turn and flop with top pair then when flop came i thought i had it when he went all in only 1 dollar sit n go oh well

dirtyoldog said:

what would make you fire half pot on flop?

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Weak starting ranges + I really don't need a lot of folds to profit. My half-pot range contains a ****ton of air because I only need to get folds 1/3 of the time to profit from half-pot bluffing the flop.

I would add that I'd been hitting flush draws all morning on the flop and never hitting by the river and when I finally do i got a bit kiddy. Also the 0.10 bet on the river felt like the villain wanted a cheap showdown. I think if we stay in the hand instead of folding pre then calling is definitely the best line as my river raise is likely only to get called by better flushes.

cheers for the advice it helps me realise that i can't blame bad luck as i could of saved money by folding pre (optimally) or just calling the river.

Not sure about firing half pot on the flop this is the micros and they do like to chase gutshots. so anyone with a 10,9,Q,7,8 and will peel another card.

Although after how today has gone I can't really criticise, it's got a lot worse since posting this hand. Love this game!!!!