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Say I have a 5k bankroll for 1/2 NL, I sit down for a session and walk away up 150$. How much should I keep for myself and how much should I add to the bankroll? Is it even necessary to continue adding to it when 5k is a sufficient amount of money to handle the swings for the level I'm playing at?
 
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Even large winning players have downswings of 20-30 buyins. It depends on your winrate but if you never add to you bankroll then at some point it will dwindle dangerously close to zero.
 
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Depends on whether or not you want to move up in stakes somewhere down the line or not.

It's all personal preference. If you want to keep playing 1/2 and are just playing for fun, then sure, everything above 5K is fair game.
If you want to eventually move up, then all winnings should go towards building your roll and none of it should be taken out.

Or you can compromise and find a middle ground.


It depends on your goals and ambitions, imo. As long as you actually use good BRM for the stakes you play, then this doesn't matter. Just do what you think is best.
 
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very nit BR mangment: 40 bayins per table
a bit loos BR mangment: 20 bayins per table

just calculate the ammount for the limit you want to play play
 
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If you are playing for a living you must take some out. The amount you need to live on. 5k is your bankroll and should stay at that amount. Each week or month etc you take out the amount you need to live on from your winnings. After that you can do as you like with the extra. Add it to your bankroll, buy a TV, put it in savings etc. Now if you have several bad weeks or even months in a row you need to ask whether you are going to be successful or not. If you believe you are capable you will need to buckle down and cut back on living expenses etc and keep your bankroll at 5k plus. If you are winning and live is good build your bankroll with whatever excess you have over your living expenses and take a shot at higher limits or just enjoy life. 150 in a given day is too short to think about. go by week or month even. Set aside living expenses and then decide on what to do with the excess. Avoid women at all costs(You won't but I had to say it). If you are playing for fun then bankroll means nothing. Enjoy.
 
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you should always add to your bankroll you can never have to big of one (lol thats what she said) treat it like a buisness the more money u have in your buisness the stronger u are. once your at lets say 5k where you want to sit take at least 35% and add it.

if you fall under 5k take all your winnings and add to it until back to 5k and never borrow from your bankroll AKA buisness. when buisness' borrow they go bankrupt. GL
 
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Minimum for proper BRM for $1/2 NL is 20 max buy-ins of $200 each so $4,000 & U have $5,000 so that is tremendous. If you want to add another $1,000 to your total BR to $6,000 to be extra safe then that would be stupendous. Other than that I wouldn't add any unless you plan on moving to $5/10 NL.

Since it is a lot of players plan to move up in stakes I would say 50% of whatever U win should go into your bankroll so if U won $150 then put $75 into your bankroll. If you have a losing session of say $300 then the next session should have 100% of your wins go to covering that $300 loss.

If you want your bankroll to be at $5,000 & U don't want to move up in stakes then don't put anything into your bankroll unless you lose & then 100% of your wins until it reaches $5,000 again. If you don't plan on moving up then I would suggest spending 50% on bills/fun & put 50% in savings. If you are working hard for your money then have your money work hard for you by earning interest.
 
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Your bank roll should only be for poker... building it up or down, it should only be for poker. Otherwise it's not a poker bank roll, it's just your life roll you play with.
 
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Your bank roll should only be for poker... building it up or down, it should only be for poker. Otherwise it's not a poker bank roll, it's just your life roll you play with.

What?

So a winning player should just keep increasing their roll and never withdraw anything?

Just wtf.
 
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If I were this hypothetical player I would add these money to the bankroll , it's too early , now , at the beginning to keep for myself . After 10 sessions I will have come to a conclusion how good I am at this stake ,I will have seen if I have a downswing/many bad beats ( in this case all the money of future wins go to the bankroll to cover losses till we have 6k again or 30 by-ins which I prefer more than 20) or not ( then all the money that I win , after I reach the target of 6k , and if I don't want to move up in stakes , I keep them ) . There are articles for bankroll management on this site .Check them out .
 
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For me it depends that how much bill I have to pay:) There was severel time that i hade to withdraw all my roll and than to start from nothing. Thank you CC that i can play again and again without deposit :D
(Maybe thts the reason why can`t i leave the microstackes :D)
 
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I would say as much as possible so you can move up from 1-2
 
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To add to what others have said, the amount you should ideally keep in your bankroll to protect against downswings also depends on the relationship between your win rate and your variance. More "LAG" players tend to have higher variance, whereas if you play a 'smallball' or nitty style where you rarely bluff and only get it in with monsters, you will tend to have a lower variance [either style can certainly win you money at a $1/$2 live game, where the players generally aren't very good]. In the former case I'd say 35 BI is safe, in the latter 25 should be good. But that's still preparing for the worst - if you want to take out money, you can do so, just be warned that you may have to put some money back in if you have an unlucky stretch.
 
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Your bank roll should only be for poker... building it up or down, it should only be for poker. Otherwise it's not a poker bank roll, it's just your life roll you play with.

Thats not true... what would be the point of making money on poker with no intent of ever seeing it. You might as well be playing play money
 
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My plan for online poker is not to withdraw until I am a winning 100NL player. For live poker, I don't have a proper bankroll and life roll. Whatever money I win goes into my bank account and as long as I can afford to play, I keep playing.
 
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If you play for living you should make some money.With 5k bankroll try to be ~+200$ everyday so it will be a total of 6k$ per month :) don`t move up on medium stakes soon
 
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Your question are rather confusing,anyways its depends if you still building your bankroll.Conservative brm is 50-100 buy-in.
 
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I get a little bit and double in sit n go tournaments. Sometimes tournament games several dollars guaranteed buy-in low.
 
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whats wrong to play with 40 - 50 bi. would be a better chance to keep the money tight. bad sessions would be the just the half of the bad thing
 
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I like to double or triple up before I leave the cash table
 
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20% monthly

make sure to always have 80% monthly left for the next month
 
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Ii think its more like 50 -100 bb buyins.
 
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Say I have a 5k bankroll for 1/2 NL, I sit down for a session and walk away up 150$. How much should I keep for myself and how much should I add to the bankroll? Is it even necessary to continue adding to it when 5k is a sufficient amount of money to handle the swings for the level I'm playing at?

It all depends what your trying to accomplish in poker. Are you trying to build a bankroll to support your live expenses? Do you just play for a hobby and are trying to maintain a bankroll? These are some questions you need to ask yourself.
 
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