How much do 2/5NL and 5/10NL Live Pros make?

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Someone mentioned that for 1/2NL, a very good player could make $20/hr after many hours. But realistically, no one plays 1/2NL for a living. Is that true or false? What about 1/3nl? I know some places have 1/3 and you can buyin deepstack for 500 as oppose to 300 so its like a baby 2/5nl game almost. Thoughts on this? I feel like someone can actually make 40k/year playing 1/3nl with a 500 buyin if they put lot of hours.


But for 2/5NL, i read 25-35 per hour was pretty good. And anything 50 and up which is 10BB-12BB would be crushing it. Are there any 2/5 or 5/10nl Live Pros here? I would estimate that a pretty good 2/5NL would make around $35/hr and say 30 hours a week would make $1000 a week. Say 50 weeks a year and its $50000 a year before taxes. But someone said if someone was making this much, he would be playing 5/10NL and not 2/5NL.


I'm curious at how much live pros who are winning players make on average. I heard the best a 5/10nl player can make up to $100 per hour but most of the really good ones make $75 max. If that is true, are most of them grinding it out 1500-2000 hours a year? Because if they are, they would be 100k/year at least with that winrate. But i assume most of the good players winrate for 5/10nl would be more like 50/hr? But i also read on sites that 100k/year playing 5/10nl would make you top 1 percent of players and that most dont even make that much.


Also i heard that poker in vegas is actually pretty tough when you play 2/5NL and up. Is that true or false? I have played poker in atlantic city and vegas and in my opinion, the 1/2 games in vegas are easily softer than any 1/2 game i ever played in AC nitfest i ever played.


I would assume if someone plays full time and puts at least 35 hours a week and is a pretty good player at that level it would be like this...


1/3NL- $25000-$40000

2/5NL- $30000-$60000

5/10NL- $40000-$100000



Thoughts on my numbers?
 
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I watched a video if you play a lot of tables 25nl you get paid awesome rackback, thats playing 100k hands and he said he made 2000 on just rakeback alone. ofc i don't know how true that is but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.
 
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I watched a video if you play a lot of tables 25nl you get paid awesome rackback, thats playing 100k hands and he said he made 2000 on just rakeback alone. ofc i don't know how true that is but he sounded like he knew what he was talking about.

He's talking live poker.

Unfortunately I can't verify your numbers. 10BB/hr seems to be a high verse though, considering the low number if hands played in an hour live.
 
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Im not the best poker player, and I certainly need improvement, but il tell you my experience. at 1/2, i just about broke even my first year. its very hard to breast the rake and I put in forty hours every week minus two weeks vaca. at 5/10,i got my ass kicked quick and moved down to 2/5. in a year,i recovered and made about 25k. The next year, i cleared 55k. Im waiting to Hit 85k to try 5/10 again.
I keep track yearly instead of hourly because it works better for me mentally, long story , i got no reason to b.s, so thats that. i just hope I dont shit a sick down swing. gl out there
 
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Just due to rake I think your 1/3nl numbers are a bit high, but the 2/5 and 5/10nl ones look good, also noting that basically the top number is if an extremely good poker player was playing those stakes only and didn't move up. Realistically anyone good enough to make 100k/yr at 5/10nl is shot-taking 10/20nl+ games when they run and the top 2/5nl pros are at the very least playing 5/10nl games when they're good.

Also should note the variance in live poker, so someone with an ev of 100k/yr might make 50k one year and 150k the next simply due to variance. I mean each stack that person wins/loses is a difference of 2% of their annual income. If they play deep (and most 5/10nl games do), it's possible single pots will swing annual incomes by up to even 10%. And that's just for the top winners.
 
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Not sure, but there is a casino that I sometimes go to, everytime I have been there has been one kid sitting with well over £500, sometimes as much as £1000. And this is 1/2 with a 200 max buy in. I mean he is seriously good but jeeez.

He must be earning £75,000k as a year as a very conservative guess.
 
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Those numbers are most likely not possible. No one can make 75k a year playign 1/2 with a 200 max buyin. I think 40k would be the absolute max and that number is a bit too high.
 
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Deeper Stacks equal bigger game

When you play a 1-2 Nl game that has a max buy in of $300.00 and it's late at night and you run your stack up to $600 to $1k and there's like 3 or 4 others at table with that amount and the rest with between 200 to 500 that game plays very diff than what people are calling that standard 1-2no poker game. .Add some drinks and aggression and someone can easily walk away with $2k+ and a possible $2k profit...
 
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