how does everyone play this type of hand

mattisme

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say you have pocket pair and you hit trips and on the flop its all of the same suit and you dont have that suit for example
your cards:jd4: :jh4:
and the flop is:jc4: :4c4: :3c4:

what would you do in this situation
 
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Well Thinking there is only one person who called my pre-flop raise, 2 tops. I would do a continuation bet to see where everyone stands. More then likely if someone has the flush they will either call or raise. If not someone is going to call because they either have king of that suit or ace of that suit. Then again you also have 7 cards to come for either the fullhouse and 4 of a kind.
 
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thats true twizzy...usually i do the continuous bet hoping that another heart wont come out but unfortunatly with my luck i lose to the flush nearly every time
 
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bet big on the turn and river if no other club has hit.
 
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Well you hit a set not trips..... I'd bet it but if you get resistance or another club falls be cautious! You have 7 outs if your opponent has flushed........
 
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Same here, would do a continuation bet to see where i stand and quick calls and you know they are probally chasing, if no more clubs come out would do my best to bet them out of the pot.

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Like XD said, when you hold a pocket pair and hit your third card on the board, you made a set. Having one of your hole cards show up twice on the board (again, 3 of a kind) is trips. No big deal, just a little pet peeve of mine. Now on to the question. With pocket Jacks, depending on position, players at the table, etc. you should have been able to isolate one or two players with your pre-flop raise or re-raise making it heads-up or three handed going into the flop. Bet strong on the flop since you were the pre flop aggressor and don't be too afraid of callers...some people will chase a draw no matter what. If no club shows on the turn, bet it out again. As long as you were called and not raised after the flop you can be relatively sure your opponent isn't holding a made hand. More than likely after just smooth calling your pre and post-flop raises (which is what will happen in most cases on a board like that) you're going to get another smooth call on the turn due to the odds the large pot will be laying them. Keep the pressure on with big raises as long as no club comes or other scare card scenario like runner-runner straight cards. If on the turn paint falls, you may want to change up the size of your bet to try and take the pot down immediately. For example, if a Queen falls on the turn and your opponent held A-K with one Club (which some donks play like pocket Aces) he/she has picked up four more outs because of the backdoor straight.

Long story short, hitting a set on the flop is a great way to extract a lot of chips from opponents as long as you don't automatically assume you have it won and bet without considering all of the possible hands your opponent would initially call with, continue calling bets with, etc.
 
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(How i would play it, Right or Wrong)

I would simply make a medium size raise (Depending on what position i was acting) and watch what the betting was after me. From there response it should give you a good idea on how strong there hand was. ie: Did they just call or raise, and how big the re-raise was etc.

from that info, i would then make my choice.

Fug`s
 
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xdmanx007 said:
Well you hit a set not trips..... I'd bet it but if you get resistance or another club falls be cautious! You have 7 outs if your opponent has flushed........
Trips are any three cards of the same rank despite the format. A set specifically implies a wired pair.
 
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Well, if an opponent has two clubs in their hand, you're screwed. So, I would make a BIG raise. Unless your opponent has an Ace or King of clubs, they might fold. If they want to chase that flush, it would cost them a good amount of their stack. Raised them out of the hand before they hit their flush.
 
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Actually I wouldn't say screwed you have 7 outs and likely to pick up 3 more on the turn. NL cash games are all about big pots and unless you limped in preflop and are CERTAIN your opponent has flushed, you should be trying to break your opponent. You can't always wait for the "nuts". The vast majority of your money will be made in the murky middle. Experience is the only thing that will improve your judgement to where you know when you have a "better" hand than your opponent but not necessarily the "best possible hand".
 
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