How do you play a monster for maximum profit?

#1 31st October 2017, 3:24 AM

When you flop a full house... How do you play it to ensure the other players don't fold and you get maximum profit?

#2 31st October 2017, 6:05 AM

there is no definite answer, it all depends on which strategy you use, on what you are positioning, what your bankroll is, how your rivals play. For a correct solution, you need to analyze a lot.

#3 31st October 2017, 6:35 AM

Monsters I play very quietly .

#4 31st October 2017, 6:54 AM

depends on your stack, depends on the blinds, depends of many other things
but simple answering
most of the players play very quietly in monsters hands in flop, to not to scare the vilain, to earn more or take to the showdown
basically this.

#5 31st October 2017, 7:10 AM

It depends on the opponent if I play with loose aggressive opponent in the position I will play through sloupleley luzovopassivnym I will bet from 1 \ 2-2 \ 3

#6 31st October 2017, 7:23 AM

Check and little raise and take time between your calls. If player infront of you is newbie than you can call all in.

#7 31st October 2017, 8:12 AM

If I get a fullhouse on the flop I slow play most often. I play aggressively with agro player. And I play bet-bet-bet against loose passive player.

#8 31st October 2017, 8:21 AM

I'll playing check raised, hoping to catch opponent and to build a pot as big as I can.

#9 31st October 2017, 9:34 AM

Originally Posted by diadiavalik

there is no definite answer, it all depends on which strategy you use, on what you are positioning, what your bankroll is, how your rivals play. For a correct solution, you need to analyze a lot.

I agree with this answer here, it is not simple to make a decision with a monster on the flop, in which case you quoted a Full house, logically mind we want to invest as much Stack as possible to get the maximum value. But this is not always the case.

#10 31st October 2017, 9:41 AM

Originally Posted by anthonydalvaro

When you flop a full house... How do you play it to ensure the other players don't fold and you get maximum profit?

I play as I normally would, If I lead the betting pre-flop, then I would C-bet, after all, I have been C-betting throughout the game or I would bet or call if not leading the bets.

#11 31st October 2017, 11:35 AM

Feeling what you are experiencing when you catch a monster from the flop is like poker nirvana. This wonderful feeling makes up for the disappointment of the long hours of garbage disposal.
If you suddenly realized that you have severed yourself from all your other rivals, then it's worth dowrying your cards and giving others an opportunity to catch up with you. Give them a little space so that they can dig a hole in it for themselves.

#12 31st October 2017, 3:07 PM

It depends how strong your full house is. Even you flopped full house, it can be easily beaten by better full house unless you have the best.

#13 31st October 2017, 3:36 PM

Originally Posted by anthonydalvaro

When you flop a full house... How do you play it to ensure the other players don't fold and you get maximum profit?

Every monster hand will be played differently as you need to assess other players at your table, your position and the cards on the table as well. If you are playing against an aggressive player then you might want to check and wait for him to try and bluff. If you are playing against someone that is passive then a bunch of small raises might be in order. It’s a hard question to answer without knowing an exact situation or circumstance. It also depends on how you have been playing. If you are playing tight and people know that then they know when you are betting its most likely because you have something good. I hope this helped a little.

#14 31st October 2017, 11:03 PM

So i suppose slow play is the consensus. Some people say that people are more liable to call an all in than a big bet.

#15 1st November 2017, 3:15 PM

Originally Posted by diadiavalik

there is no definite answer, it all depends on which strategy you use, on what you are positioning, what your bankroll is, how your rivals play. For a correct solution, you need to analyze a lot.

Totally agree with this answer.

I can even give you an example that happened to me recently in an MTT on Pokerstars (5.5$ buy in i think)
villain bets UTG 3BB, I raised with AK on the cutoff to round 7.5 BB, villain calls.
FLOP: A66 rainbow, villain goes all in and I call, he shows A6off

He got the max value, but I am only calling his all in with AK, maybe with AQ but it is a stretch. Is his play good, probably not, with smaller bet in his position, he would probably get TT+ to call, that would normally fold this big of a raise on the flop.

Therefore no real play to get max value, just has to be based on reading opponents, positioning, and stack sizes

#16 1st November 2017, 3:19 PM

Did you try taking the monster to the muffin man if no then you should try him first he always pays top dollar for monster hands. If that's not what you mean then slow bet see if they call and wait for them to think they have a better hand then let them push all in nvr fails

#17 1st November 2017, 3:22 PM

Most aggressive and not afraid that p can throw!

#18 1st November 2017, 3:29 PM

Hard and fast, slowly and carefully.

#19 1st November 2017, 11:12 PM

if the villains are betting I call up the last card where I give a strong bet, to win the majority of chips

#20 2nd November 2017, 1:55 AM

Originally Posted by Bozovicdj

Totally agree with this answer.

I can even give you an example that happened to me recently in an MTT on Pokerstars (5.5$ buy in i think)
villain bets UTG 3BB, I raised with AK on the cutoff to round 7.5 BB, villain calls.
FLOP: A66 rainbow, villain goes all in and I call, he shows A6off

He got the max value, but I am only calling his all in with AK, maybe with AQ but it is a stretch. Is his play good, probably not, with smaller bet in his position, he would probably get TT+ to call, that would normally fold this big of a raise on the flop.

Therefore no real play to get max value, just has to be based on reading opponents, positioning, and stack sizes

I saw Daniel Negreanu bust out of the pokerstars championship in Monte-Carlo the same exact way, I was surprised he would call. I'm surprised you called.

#21 2nd November 2017, 1:57 AM

Originally Posted by freestocks

Hard and fast, slowly and carefully.

As long as it's a full house and not a 2 pair or 3 of a kind! I played these slow thinking I was getting maximum value, he finally went all in and I was like YES!

He turned a straight on the river... This happened twice, I've concluded I should play up to a 3 of a kind hard and fast. LOL

#22 2nd November 2017, 2:42 AM

as everyone said...it depends. But in case I first have an Idea of what my opponent has. I try to make him feel save if he hits his "best" card an then slowly rase or call him.

#23 2nd November 2017, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by anthonydalvaro

I saw Daniel Negreanu bust out of the pokerstars championship in Monte-Carlo the same exact way, I was surprised he would call. I'm surprised you called.

In my defense, I was the chip leader by far, so I took into consideration that villain would shove like that thinking that I was donk raising him preflop, wanting me to fold most of my range
Is there a video link or something for that DNeg hand? Would like to check it if possible

#24 2nd November 2017, 1:13 PM

It really depends on the situation, are you playing Cash or SnG, blinds to stack ratio, opponent and so on.

In Cash a nice line would be for example C-bet or raise the Flop to then check turn to induce a call or Bluff on the river. If you flop the nuts you want to make sure your oponent hits something really good to go for max value. If you think hes playing a mid PP (88) for example and the Flop brings AQJ your not getting value
by C-beting that. On a flop like K67s thats a different story.

If you mean "monsters" like AA, KK in torunaments it might be a nice idea to flat them vs a EP openraise to induce a squeeze from a late pos aggresor. It really comes down to the situation...

#25 2nd November 2017, 2:07 PM

Raiiiseeeee rereeaaaiseee weeeeeee

Not too big in one go... But raaaaisseeee

#26 2nd November 2017, 10:19 PM

So as many above mentioned there is no definitive answer to this...
Fact is, if you were not the original pre flop aggressor (IE you are in position) dont hurry up. Dont forget to not change your table image while you hold the nuts, play consistently. You dont want to change the pattern of your behaviour in these spots, because it simply may be suspicious to the players that actually take care of your actions. If you are playing live, some hollywooding may help, but not too much, because that could bring too much attention. I would slowplay the nuts, but if you C-bet 90% of the flops dont worry too much and Cbet as usual. OFC it also depends on your opponent... if he is LAG then yeah baby play the weak and take long to call etc. Just hollywood and sell your nuts for the best price But sometimes you are going to face a nit and dont get any value, but yeah thats poker and thats how it sometimes works.

Good luck

#27 3rd November 2017, 8:08 PM

In this case, it is necessary to think about how to get more chips from the opponent. Here everything depends on the structure of the flop, and on how our opponent plays. I think you need to play slowly, making the minimum bet on the flop, slightly bigger on the turn and bigger on the river. This is a quite effective scheme for the slow replenishment of the bank.

#28 11th November 2017, 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by Bozovicdj

In my defense, I was the chip leader by far, so I took into consideration that villain would shove like that thinking that I was donk raising him preflop, wanting me to fold most of my range
Is there a video link or something for that DNeg hand? Would like to check it if possible

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#29 11th November 2017, 1:13 AM

Generally I would at least let them see the turn. Hopefully they are now drawing to a straight or a flush. I bet to make them see river.Check to induce bluff and check-raise allin if they hit their flush or straight. Defiantly let them see the turn unless it is a sophisticated player then you want to make it look like a bluff as much as possible.

#30 11th November 2017, 9:17 AM

ha ha haha

It all depends. If you need to ask how to play a monster hand you don't have much of a sot in this game. How would you play for example TPTK with AK on a Ace high flop? - If you need help with your monster hands how you expect to fare with one pair hands?

You have a long and very expensive road ahead of you in this game.

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