This is a discussion on How do you handle the turn? within the online poker forums, in the Cash Games section; Lately I have been making the mistake of checking the turn to much, giving free cards and getting burned on the river. How do you
Lately I have been making the mistake of checking the turn to much, giving free cards and getting burned on the river. How do you handle the turn? Bet hard if you have something decent, the nuts, draw? I'm new to cash, switched from tourney and the turn is deff a leak in my game. Thanks everyone!
I had identified this as a leak in my game a while back and took steps to correct this.
1) A lot of online players will float the flop with any two, especially over cards, and look for you to check the turn to bet big to push you off your hand. Easiest way to combat that is to look at your position, the texture of the board and bet the turn around the same percentage as your flop bet more often. Those that float often fold the turn.
2) You must punish draws - if a draw hits the flop but misses the turn, often if you bet aggressively on the turn the draws will give up, whereas draws will often call the flop as there are more chances to improve. Harder to call if you only have one card left
3) Many people are calling stations and you can extract value by betting the turn and going to the river, especially if you have position on them.
You need to vary your game by mixing it up - betting your draws sometimes, but not all the time. The more you know about your opponent the better.
4th April 2018, 5:55 AM
Poker at: PokerStars
Bet big with big hands since i want to be able to get a bigger bet on the river.
Also If he is on a draw on turn i want to get value now before he misses his draw on river
4th April 2018, 8:27 AM
I am usually betting my draws and premium hands on the turn and checking my medium strength hands. But it definitely depends on the opponent and board texture. I am mostly a tournament player so I find at the lower limit cash games people are much more willing to call if they have anything.
4th April 2018, 9:01 AM
Poker at: ACR
re: Poker & How do you handle the turn?
Agree that you must make draws pay if they did not improve.. But, If I am on a semi-bluff, such as a apparent flush draw that makes on the turn, I will drop a bomb and watch them scatter.
If I am on a table that is inhabited by aggressive players(Donks abound here, especially in the Freeroll events), and I have called with perhaps less than optimal cards and hit the flop, I will check it and see if one of diarrhea better will make a move.
4th April 2018, 9:15 AM
If you just started playing, I would advise you to play the minimum number of starting hands! Only play with higher cards, create the image of a secret player, and sometimes you can turn on the bluff! You need to get used to the new format of the game. Restrain yourself not to play a lot of hands, and then you will not have a problem.
4th April 2018, 11:01 AM
Poker at: AC
Turn plays are very subjective it's almost impossible to tell you 'what to do' without a realistic scenario to work with.
Generally if you don't know where you stand and you were the first aggressor you should c-bet again, but if you're worried go a bit heavier and see where you stand. Feeler bets are a good way to see if he's trapping you. It's better to give away a little on purpose than give away a lot on a suckout. Information is worth paying for and it may cost you now but it'll pay for itself later as long as you remember it.
4th April 2018, 12:40 PM
There turn is the best spot to bet, or as i like to call it "tax" the draws and weaker hands.
The odds of people hitting the draw on the river are half as good now, so make them pay to suck out.
If your going to check any street, check the flop with good but not power house hands. Then make a nice pot size bet on the turn. I use this play often when i have top pair top kicker.
Hope this helps, good luck out there!
4th April 2018, 3:33 PM
Poker at: pokerstars
Great post thanks
4th April 2018, 10:27 PM
re: Poker & How do you handle the turn?
If it bothers you then you should understand what you do. If your hand is good enough then you should value bet there. If it's good only for the turn and the river may change everything then you should bet (and the bet must be of a good size) in order to protect your current hand and make the next card more expensive to see for your opponents. If you have any kind of draw then decide yourself what to do. Any decision should follow an aim.