How do you handle floaters?

I generally play a TAG approach but i steal a lot in cash games. I'm pretty sure my opponents notice so most of the time they just 3bet me and i fold. Of course sometimes they have a monster and sometimes they are just restealing.

The thing is it seems like whenever they call just me, they either call me on the flop or raise me. This is when they have position on me. I'm pretty sure a lot of them float me on the flop because i just know there isn't a way they have a hand every single time against me. But if i fire the turn really big, then they usually fold even when i'm bluffing.

How do you play against players who love to float you? I am specifically talking about players who do this to you b/c its profitable for them because they know you continuation bet a lot.

double barrel good turn cards that don't hit ur opponents range

What are your cbet stats for flop and turn? Also keep on eye on their fold to cbet stats for flop and turn. If flop is low, and turn is high, you should know what to do. Also if their fold to flop is high, and they call, you should probably give up unless you have a piece.

Have stuff....

Raise strong hands pre, c-bet more for value, give up on the flop more, and 2-barrel good turn cards.

what about those players that will raise you on the turn even when i bet on the turn hard? Like they don't even look for scare cards, but basically just raise me on the turn no matter what even if i bet hard?

get off the table then but that shoudnt be happening a lot at all

carroll3 said:

what about those players that will raise you on the turn even when i bet on the turn hard? Like they don't even look for scare cards, but basically just raise me on the turn no matter what even if i bet hard?

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Yeah if your at the micros, people arent bluff raising many turns, if they are then move tables b/c there are literally plenty more fish in the sea!

Don't bet turn "hard" unless you have a big hand and then fist pump when they raise you?

well i bet hard b/c when i do have a strong hand like TPTK, im suppose to bet....

is TPTK against a Reg considered even a big hand?

I ussually avoid them completley. It is not my job to make profit outplaying decent or good players.

carroll3 said:

I generally play a TAG approach but i steal a lot in cash games. I'm pretty sure my opponents notice so most of the time they just 3bet me and i fold. Of course sometimes they have a monster and sometimes they are just restealing.

The thing is it seems like whenever they call just me, they either call me on the flop or raise me. This is when they have position on me. I'm pretty sure a lot of them float me on the flop because i just know there isn't a way they have a hand every single time against me. But if i fire the turn really big, then they usually fold even when i'm bluffing.

How do you play against players who love to float you? I am specifically talking about players who do this to you b/c its profitable for them because they know you continuation bet a lot.

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Steal a LOT less from the SB (since you say your attempting to steal yet end up OOP that's basically all you're talking about). Basically the less trash you try to play from the SB the better off you'll be. Save your trashy steals for the button.

carroll3 said:

is TPTK against a Reg considered even a big hand?

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Someone's constantly raising you on the turn and you have TPTK, seems like a nasty spot

carroll3 said:

what about those players that will raise you on the turn even when i bet on the turn hard? Like they don't even look for scare cards, but basically just raise me on the turn no matter what even if i bet hard?

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I don't know about you, but instead of moving tables, I'm telling all my friends to come join in on the free money.

carroll3 said:

How do you handle floaters?

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I flush a second time.

Tyler69 said:

get off the table then but that shoudnt be happening a lot at all

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This assuming you are playing online just find a better table. If not double barrel more etc like others have mentioned?

SavagePenguin said:

I flush a second time.

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Damn. Beat me to it

SavagePenguin said:

I flush a second time.

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I've been wanting to make this joke for three days lol

i've been wanting to make that joke for 3 yrs

If you have air and you simply want to take down the pot on the flop - you can check-raise assuming the floater is aggro and he will usually bet if checked to...The floater will fold his air for sure if you check-raise him.

You can also consider doing this with TPTK/overpair.. He will quickly let you know if he can beat top pair by raising back and you just fold... If he calls and a blank hits turn -> shove your TPTK.

Pafkata said:

You can also consider doing this with TPTK/overpair.. He will quickly let you know if he can beat top pair by raising back and you just fold... If he calls and a blank hits turn -> shove your TPTK.

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Why would you shove TPTK against a villian who you assume has air?

Stu_Ungar said:

Why would you shove TPTK against a villian who you assume has air?

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Because he does not like value

Stu_Ungar said:

Why would you shove TPTK against a villian who you assume has air?

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You didn't get it... Here's an example:

My hand AQ and I am UTG with 100BB

I raise 4x and I got called. Everyone else folds

Pot: 9.5 blinds
Board : QdTd7c
I check, and villain bets 7 blinds, I raise to 22 blinds and he calls.

Pot: 53.5 blinds and what's left in my stack is 74 blinds
Turn card: 4c

At this point, I put villain on a Q with worse kicker or some kind of a draw. I prefer to take the relatively big 53.5bb pot right now or get called by a draw or KQ,QJ

If I bet something like 30-40BB on the turn, I am pretty much committed to the hand and I can't fold any bad river card, because I will have to pay only about 30-35BB to win a 120BB+ pot.

If I bet the full pot size on the turn, I will be left with 20BB which is against stupid and why not put everything when I will be putting more than half of the rest of my stack ??

Checkraise shove? Lead for 30 bb and shove your last 44bb on the river?