How do most of you approach 1-3nl?

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That is pretty much all they have around here so wondering how you approach it if you bring $300 with you then take out the minimum and keep rebuying with that leftover $300 til you double-quad up or what is your approach on how to manage your buy ins?
 
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I am a 1-3 NL player. I play live at the casinos. Here are some suggestions I can make to you. If you do buy-in for the maximum amount of 300.00$. You stand a better chance of doubling up or making a bigger return on the hands that you do win. I personally do not advise or suggest re-buying after losing a buy-in of 300$. That is a lot of money. I know from personal experience. My playing style is off after I lose my buy-in at that point I begin to chase.

Here is what I would suggest. Play tight. Single pair hands and two-pair hands are obsolete in this game sorry to say. This is what I learned from losing huge amounts of money on these hands. Wait for strong hands. Trips, straights, flush draws with the right odds. Believe me this is how you go up in the money at these tables. Wait for your opponents to make the mistake of calling your big hand with there top-pair or two-pair.

Here is my graph. I'm at a plateau right now. I can't get over this 5k mark. I just lost 600$ last night. That is too rough on a bankroll. Which is why I would suggest only buying in once. Play your cards tight believe me. Do not keep calling huge raises before the flop with cards you feel are not going to hold up. Or cards your only chance of winning are by spiking a set. Unless you know exactly which hand your opponent has which I can imagine is difficult. Bet only with strong hands. (Sets, Flush, Straights, Top-Two-Pair on a safe board) Stay away from middle pairs and low pairs they are not worth paying off the other player on the table.

Best of luck. Some of these tables are hard to make money at. You can literally lose lots fast.
 

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That is pretty much all they have around here so wondering how you approach it if you bring $300 with you then take out the minimum and keep rebuying with that leftover $300 til you double-quad up or what is your approach on how to manage your buy ins?

What do you mean by "take out the minimum?" If you're referring to pocketing any chips over $300, that isn't allowed and terrible etiquette.

Ideally you'll want to buy in for the max, top up to the max as much as possible, and bring enough buy ins to be able to play as long as you need to. But most situations aren't ideal so it depends on bankroll, tilt, etc.
 
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Wait until you flop a set, top two pair, or strong drawing hands. You'll do good. When you have a made hand. Shut down betting by betting high.

Only play hands AA, KK, QQ, JJ, Pocket 10s - 2s, Suited Connectors in late position 8/7+ Play extremely tight. Fold any middle or low pairs you make on the flop.. Be aggressive when you have it and call when you need to make a hand. Don't chase a gut shot ever. Do this and you'll win the majority of the time.

Learn how to read body language, speech tells, different psychology of players, and always look for tells. Observe, listen and think constantly about the best options in a hand. This is how you beat live NL. Do not, bluff....
 
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Where to start....

When you have a made hand. Shut down betting by betting high.

Yes, when you have a made hand don't let worse call you. Seems like good advice :/ or not.... While we want to extract maximum value at all times, we do not necessarily want to "shut out all betting". We should be sizing our bets based on our opponents range and either be charging them the most we feel they will pay with that range when we are ahead of its majority or the minimum that it would take to fold out that range when we may be behind. If we just bet people out of the pot every time we have a good hand then we are losing ALOT of value...

Only play hands AA, KK, QQ, JJ, Pocket 10s - 2s, Suited Connectors in late position 8/7+

Your range should be dictated by position, pre flop action, dynamic, image, players at the table, history with villain, stack sizes, tendencies etc.... Your losing money only playing the top 5% of hands. As a rough idea, around 15% should be tight enough yet loose enough to show a consistent profit. You can adjust this depending on skill, table dynamic and effective stack size. is Also if you have predominantly played online previously it is profitable to construct a limping range in live cash.

Fold any middle or low pairs you make on the flop..

This is totally situation dependant. There are all sorts of factors to consider here; number of players in the pot, position, pot odds, implied odds, effective stack sizes, equity vs villain range, tendencies etc etc. If you are always doing this your leaking money.

Don't chase a gut shot ever.

This, again, is not necessarily true... While it is correct we should not be passively chasing gutshots two streets, there are situations where we can use our equity to semi bluff, are getting the right price, we have combo draws, villain tendencies (ie. wil c bet flop a ton but then check give up turn often)....

Do not, bluff....

Again.... dependent on soooooo many factors. We definitely can bluff and it can be quite profitable, but be selective in doing so. The better your hand reading ability and reading the easier this is to do.


Basically pretty poor advice all round....
 
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Not exactly what the question is, buy-in or play strategy. I'm going with buy-in:

The first question is are you playing for fun (while making a little cash) or trying to make a living. One $300 buy-in is not enough to play $1/3 in either case, but minimally acceptable for fun.

The second question is how good is the game? If you think you are one of the better players then you'd like to buy-in for as much as you can. At $1/$3, $300 is 100 BBs. The is pretty much the minimum buy-in if you are one of the better players.

If you're not one of the top 3 players (9 or 10 player table), you'll want to buy-in for the minimum, playing super tight, hoping to get a shoveable hand and topping up to the minimum when you get through the blinds.

If you are one of the top 3 players, I'd still play very tight UTG to MP, loosening up to playing top 15% in the BB. The play really depends on the table so it is hard to say.

As a (decent??) recreational $1/2 player myself I buy-in for the max, but have 2 more buy-ins with me. I play for ~5 to 6 hours max, taking a couple of 10 minute breaks. I also take a 10 minute break anytime I lose a big hand.

BTW, the minimum pro bankroll for $1/3 is $15,000, IMHO
 
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