ZenAndPoker
Rising Star
Bronze Level
I am at a very frustrating point in my bankroll building journey right now. I am playing the $5 NLHE 6-Max tables. I play both zoom and regular. Zoom is fairly easy because the play is a lot more tight passive and almost every pot is heads up. However I am having a terrible time making any profit at the regular tables.
I sit down at these regular tables, I usually play 1-2 at a time and 1 zoom, and there's almost always at least one player with a VPIP/PFR of somewhere around 50/30, 40/25. And I'm not talking about the stupid maniacs that' just goes all in with any two cards on any board. These types of players will generally try to catch two pair or a set and then get you all in with your TPTK. The rest of the hands they are stealing pots by betting pot sized bets every street and getting you to fold your top pair or draws by the river when they miss and costing you a fortune.
This makes the tables extremely loose. The other passive fish start calling even wider hoping to crack someone, and pot control goes out the window.
If I end up in late position or even worse in the blinds with a big hand and its raised before it gets to me and I 3-bet I often end up with 2-3 callers. If it hasn't been raised yet and I open-raise I often end up with 2-4 callers. Now even if I do hit a TPTK or my overpair holds up the pot is already rather large.
These situations are great when you flop sets, or top two pair or monster draws, but more often than not, you're going to showdown with a pair. And the aggro-fish are constantly potting bets and check-raising because they know the tighter players aren't going to want to call off their whole stack.
And I just seem to have the worse luck with picking spots to look these guys up. Last night I get dealt AKs in the SB and of course the aggro fish is UTG and raised and had like two callers so I 3-bet rather large trying to atleast isolate the aggro-fish and it works. the flop comes 10-9-3 rainbow. so i check to him, he checks. turn is a king, so i bet out, he flats. river is another low blank now the pot is huge so i figure lets not be gready i've gotten enough value with TPTK there is no straight or flush so i check to him there is about $4 in the pot at this point and he goes all in for about another 3 which has me covered.
Do I call, do I fold? I call. He's got 10-9. Another hand with the same kind of player, AK again, but it comes down all spades but there is an ace of course I don't have any spades, so I bet out once and he calls me we both check/check to the river where he goes all in because now there are 4-spades on the board so I fold and he flashes ace-2 offsuit no spade either.
Its always the same ****ing pattern with these assholes, make one big bluff when they first get there and their table image isn't ruined then the next time they go all in they've got split two pair or some garbage they caught on the river.
I'm just so tired of losing entire bankrolls to these kinds of players. I feel like I'm being bullied and it's really frustrating.
I try to play a TAG game where I am the aggressor, but be smart about it. I'm keeping pots small when I don't have big hands and stealing lots of blinds and dead money on the flop when other players seem weak. These guys are totally ****ing this up for me and I feel like I have to pay huge amounts to see flops that aren't multi-way pots, or just play a super passive fit or fold never raising preflop, never stealing any blinds or small pots on flop, and just waiting to flop the nuts.
I sit down at these regular tables, I usually play 1-2 at a time and 1 zoom, and there's almost always at least one player with a VPIP/PFR of somewhere around 50/30, 40/25. And I'm not talking about the stupid maniacs that' just goes all in with any two cards on any board. These types of players will generally try to catch two pair or a set and then get you all in with your TPTK. The rest of the hands they are stealing pots by betting pot sized bets every street and getting you to fold your top pair or draws by the river when they miss and costing you a fortune.
This makes the tables extremely loose. The other passive fish start calling even wider hoping to crack someone, and pot control goes out the window.
If I end up in late position or even worse in the blinds with a big hand and its raised before it gets to me and I 3-bet I often end up with 2-3 callers. If it hasn't been raised yet and I open-raise I often end up with 2-4 callers. Now even if I do hit a TPTK or my overpair holds up the pot is already rather large.
These situations are great when you flop sets, or top two pair or monster draws, but more often than not, you're going to showdown with a pair. And the aggro-fish are constantly potting bets and check-raising because they know the tighter players aren't going to want to call off their whole stack.
And I just seem to have the worse luck with picking spots to look these guys up. Last night I get dealt AKs in the SB and of course the aggro fish is UTG and raised and had like two callers so I 3-bet rather large trying to atleast isolate the aggro-fish and it works. the flop comes 10-9-3 rainbow. so i check to him, he checks. turn is a king, so i bet out, he flats. river is another low blank now the pot is huge so i figure lets not be gready i've gotten enough value with TPTK there is no straight or flush so i check to him there is about $4 in the pot at this point and he goes all in for about another 3 which has me covered.
Do I call, do I fold? I call. He's got 10-9. Another hand with the same kind of player, AK again, but it comes down all spades but there is an ace of course I don't have any spades, so I bet out once and he calls me we both check/check to the river where he goes all in because now there are 4-spades on the board so I fold and he flashes ace-2 offsuit no spade either.
Its always the same ****ing pattern with these assholes, make one big bluff when they first get there and their table image isn't ruined then the next time they go all in they've got split two pair or some garbage they caught on the river.
I'm just so tired of losing entire bankrolls to these kinds of players. I feel like I'm being bullied and it's really frustrating.
I try to play a TAG game where I am the aggressor, but be smart about it. I'm keeping pots small when I don't have big hands and stealing lots of blinds and dead money on the flop when other players seem weak. These guys are totally ****ing this up for me and I feel like I have to pay huge amounts to see flops that aren't multi-way pots, or just play a super passive fit or fold never raising preflop, never stealing any blinds or small pots on flop, and just waiting to flop the nuts.