How to deal with cash game ranges

TinkCzru said:

I’m a pretty okay online poker player and up until today (3/4 lifetime ) was a winning live poker. But for the second time in two days people just call with ace trash and I lose value even in position.
Example: bet w/kks donk calls
Flop A10Q all ugly, continuation bet
Fish calls; turn 2 or some low card; I bet, then get check raised.

Like this has happened to me three times today and when I open big to block this nonsense, everyone folds. I’m just sick and tired of it. I know long term ev and all that Jazz, but the way these folks play is disgusting.

Even in position when I try to isolate, no one respects it. I had a real beauty with AKS everyone limps to me, I make 3 more to go plus limpers, 2nd guy magically goes all in next three fold and back to me. So sick how these kids play. I think I’m sticking to online and live tournaments only, folks have no respect for the chips in front of them, and ace rag it feels like had all my ranges (Kk-10) dominated post flop.

My strategy and I’ve felt like the correct strategy was/is position poker, tight early range, get in good on max value, even playing like that I failed .

I’m sorry for the rant guys, a lot of studying and hand posts are coming up.

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MattRyder said:

Maybe it's just me but I find that my actual cards are irrelevant most of the time in cash games. What seems more important is what I think the other guy is playing, how he's going to play it, and what I can make him think I'm playing. If an Ace comes up (and I don't have one, which I often don't) I usually take a shot at the pot anyway. If I meet a lot of resistance I slow down quickly. But more often than not the other guy, like you, assumes that I'm one of the guys you're complaining about. Cash poker, especially shorthanded, seems to be much more of a mind game than a card game.

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notahead said:

Sorry to add onto this but futhermore if I see this nonesense in your post flop game no pot control senseless barrels I think literally any 2 vs you is now acceptable to play as you seem have very very defined range and I can have wide one now that means I can greatly exploit you post flop where all your leaks being shown and can show great e.v with shuch wide range all I need to do connect once with small suited make 2 pair or desiguiswd 2 pair etc and I will instantly stack you at live game you know who these players are instantly and how to attack them this is problem online you can be exploitable and do ok as no one has super defined ranges on you but when live their people locked in on your tendencies and know what to do in order to punish you weather that means a lot floating in position to steal or catch back door to stack you you are firing station atm with no reason why you are betting in live game your smoked now this works when stack say 20 to 30 bb deep in mtt but in cash stack usually 100 bb 0plus deep to 500 not unusually in cash game so now people can exploit you as seems you analysis much preflop but not a lot post flop post turn and then again post river all these streets help define a range more and more and more at lower stakes they like open book with tells as move higher some guys will rep it even if don't have it to balance ranges etc and help keep table images hope this helps you think a little more deeper for better understanding the live game just much different beast and trying help you understand game better psychological get in their head not your own

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