How to deal with bad beats and quitting poker?

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Recently I have been running pretty bad on pokerstars due to a few bad beats at 5NL and 2NL so I'm taking a break. I posted a few hands in the cash game hand analysis forum if you would like to add some tips or advice for me to play better that would be great.

Compared to the last time I played poker I did better this time. I lasted about a week compared to a couple days. I made a good $30 the one day trying to make all my money back and was back up to $40 after starting at $60. The day after that has just been bad luck for me since.

I was just wondering if anyone had any tips or advice for winning more at poker just in case I save up more money and start playing again. I also have a couple questions if you could answer those that would be great.

Are over pairs worth stacking off with on the flop or the turn and if so how high does the pocket pair have to be assuming a 2bet/3bet situation?

Is top pair with AK/AQ worth stacking off with on the flop or the turn assuming a 2bet/3bet situation?
 
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Some hints: a) start thinking every opponent as a individual and try to find ways to play just this particular player b) only play when you feel 'smart' other times study or rest c) learn to use hand history converter many people (me included) don't read your questions at hand section because they take too much effort to understand
 
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I think the room you are playing plays a role as well.
I've tried a couple of 5NL sessions at PS and for 3 6max tables you'd barely find 1 or 2 fish where all the others are decent regs.
2nl is a different story though. There's plenty of fish to be found
 
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It all depends on your bankroll and the limits you have to choose according to it.
 
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You probably play too many hands preflop by limping too much, going too far with them post flop and paying off opponents. That alone is the cause for running bad and financial disaster. I already know what range you have. One range is the "limping range", another one is the "raising range" and the third one is your "re-raising range" of AA and KK. If somebody raises in front, you mostly call with all your playing hands except AA or KK where you re-raise. If you called a raise pre and missed the flop you check and fold.

Well, you cannot play that way and expect to win because you will never win.
 
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Easier said than done of coarse,but stop worrying about things you have no control over,,it`s self-defeating:deal:
 
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To achieve in this business perfection, we must be able to work on yourself, and then the result will not keep itself waiting long. To keep your business afloat, should continuously learn, and to become a leader – you must study twice as hard. You don't always win. But every time you lose, you get better.To achieve in this business perfection, we must be able to work on yourself, and then the result will not keep itself waiting long. To keep your business afloat, should continuously learn, and to become a leader – you must study twice as hard. You don't always win. But every time you lose, you get better.
 
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I think the post title sums it up pretty well, the bad beats will only stop if you quit playing.

As far as your questions I wouldn't plan on folding many over-pairs in small stakes games but I'm not trying to get all in with them every time either. Small stakes games really should be approached as getting value from all the loose players you will find there.

You shouldn't be looking to get all-in with top pair in single raised pots against most opponents either. I try to think of these hands as good hands to get two streets of value against competent players (bet flop, turn, and check back river or bet flop, check turn, and bet river for value).

If you just blast off every time you have top pair more often than not you will be running into better hands when you put 100BB's into the pot.

I'd suggest watching some poker videos or Twitch streams of cash game players so you will be more comfortable when you are able to (and feel like) playing again.

Good luck to you! :D
 
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...Are over pairs worth stacking off with on the flop or the turn and if so how high does the pocket pair have to be assuming a 2bet/3bet situation?

Is top pair with AK/AQ worth stacking off with on the flop or the turn assuming a 2bet/3bet situation?

Obviously you don't know where money are hidden in this game.
Winning with AK/AQ or AA/KK/QQ or your Sets are irrelevant to your overall results. What you need to find out is where the money are hidden and be able to grab them. If you think they are to be won with big pair and AK/AQ and Sets you will never be able to win. I seriously mean it when I say, Never.
 
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The best piece of advice i could give at these limits, Honestly helped me massively, is tracking your results. Checking your EV lines and results can help you mentally when you feel like nothing is working in regards to how you are playing. You are going to have losing stints at times even when you feel like you are playing solid. Variance is a big part of poker obviously, so checking your expected value lines on your graph can give you a good idea if you're getting yourself in profitable spots. If your running below EV you can be happy ok with it because you know you are playing well. This can massivley help things like tilt,self doubt etc. Trust me, you are going to have some really shitty sessions even at 2nl sometimes they can even last for days! Just gotta keep making good decisions and the math will take care of you in the end

I have played 85,000 hands at 2NL in 28 days with a 9.8 BB/100 win rate.
 
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There's a book called the mental game of poker. It's a great read and makes you think in different ways. Try it out.
 
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I think everyone here, unless they don't play a lot of poker, has run into a bad streak. The advice here is solid, and unless you want to quit, manage your bankroll, and don't automatically assume you are the best player at the table. Although it seems counter-intuitive, most hands like AK or AQ only have about 55% equity against any random 2 cards. Any time you are all-in pre-flop, you are gambling. Most gains from poker come from post-flop play. Just get used to losing, no matter how good you play. Then get your revenge the next time.
 
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Obviously you don't know where money are hidden in this game.
Winning with AK/AQ or AA/KK/QQ or your Sets are irrelevant to your overall results. What you need to find out is where the money are hidden and be able to grab them. If you think they are to be won with big pair and AK/AQ and Sets you will never be able to win. I seriously mean it when I say, Never.

You've made a couple of posts along this theme. So where is the money hidden? Does this involve pirates in any way? Pirates are smelly.
 
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