re: Poker & How to adjust (live 1/2 , 2/5)
Originally Posted by Think
Thanks DaReKa! Great insight there..
Cotta777: This 12x raise may work at online tables where people couldn't care less or something.. But I don't think it would be profitable at a live game where you're pretty much playing your hand face up and you will only get called by better hands. I have seen people do this to only fold their JJ or ship it to someone when they run into a better hand. But you're right, when they don't care you do that I guess..
I also am concerned of giving bet sizing tells. They aren't that observative(Is that a word?) but they can tell when a size looks so different than the norm.
I am primarily a live player. I have a good amount of live experience. That being said....
A standard raise on live tables is around $12~$15 preflop, or 6x~7.5x.
Live tables are very loose. They are filled with players who did not drive to the casino/charity room to fold. The game is different than online. To adress the bolded text from above -
most live players are not even thinking about ranges, even though you may think you are turning your hand face up
If you have a big hand, bet as much as you think a particular villain will call preflop. Then, continue with caution postflop. These folks will call rediculous raises with straight garbage
. They are ATMs.
The players sitting at live tables are some of the worst players on the planet.
Most are not even considering betting tells, raise sizes, etc. They are simply there to gamble. They like to see flops, play bingo, chase 2-outers/gutterballs/flushes.
I can tell you one thing for sure:
If you raise 3x~4x on a live table, you will probably be going to the flop with 7 people in the hand. A rare exception may be a table full of 80 year old nits.
I would recommend opening for at least 5x on live tables. But around $12 seems to be good...
Edit: When you are sitting at a live table, consider the dynamics when choosing a raise amount. I would try to open for pretty much the same amount consistenly. Like if you are raising to $15 most times, don't raise way bigger with AA or something.... That can help in avoiding betting tells. But you want to raise enough to "thin the herd" of gamblers playing their favorite hands, A-rag, etc. Most big hands do not play well multi-way. So if you pick up a big pair, you need to raise enough to go HU or 3-way to flop if possible.
You will see what I am talking about if/when you sit down at a live table.
Just some food for thought.