How to adjust 40bb-100bb-200bb+ all at 1 table?

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I start with 40bb at the shallow stack table and i fold my small pairs and suited connectors but often i can get my stack over 100bb and am up against small stacks and sometimes other big stacks. When should i start playing my suited connectors and small pairs against other big stacks? Should i even be playing suited connectors and small pairs against other big stacks when there are alot of small stacks? Yesterday i had nearly 300bb and was up against another big stack who had nearly 200bb. I had kk and bet every street all the way and usually i wouldnt worry about it because the stacks are so short but against another big stack i was scared luckily it was a massive fish who had q7 flopped top pair lol and i was lucky enough to take there whole stack. Any advice how i should play hands like this against 100bb opponents or even deep stacked opponents 200bb+.
 
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Okay, I'm a SS player myself. Starting with 40bb getting to 100bb is always nice. My personal mindset, not really a strategy, is when I doubled up I'm 'freerollling' with other players money now. So with this in mind I tend to loosen up my range. Being short, we want to play TAG, this is bc when we get into the hand, we are playing to go all in by the turn.

Now once we have that 200bb stack, depending on the players of course, we want to be more aggressive. Taking more stabs at checked pots, 3betting more, c/r semi bluffs and draws. Your play should start to change. Bc it makes it hard for other players to pin you down on a certain playing style, and you become harder to read.

To sum it all up, with more chips, take more risks.
 
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Just buy in for 100 and use auto top-up then you have solved part of the problem and only need to adjust for when you are deep stacked
 
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If you only have 40bb and are up against a 100bb stack, let's say you have AA and they have KK and get it all in, you can only win 40bb. You limit yourself how much you can win.
 
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If you only have 40bb and are up against a 100bb stack, let's say you have AA and they have KK and get it all in, you can only win 40bb. You limit yourself how much you can win.

I agree with this 100%. I have never understood why anyone would buy-in for any amount other than the max buy-in. Playing short increases the likelihood that you get bullied and reduces the amount of money that you can win.

I would highly recommend changing your approach so that you don't play shortstacked poker any more.

Good luck.

-HooDooKoo
 
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Look at it this way say your bankroll is 100$ and you play 5% buy in. You can buy in 5$ at 1c2c at pokerstars which is 250bb or if you want you can buy in 5$ on a short stack table at full tilt 10c 25c which is 20bb. So if you know how to use a short stack and know how to adjust to short stacks its good but more variance.But i would say buy in for the max at the short stack table which is 40bb and constantly reload otherwise if you start with 20bb and and say your playing tight and get blinded down to 10 or 15bb and finally get a good hand you dont make much profit when you finally do double up.
 
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As you please, if you really want to be a shortstacker then fair enough but I think your game and results will improve if you buy in for 100bb
 
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Well being short stacked I notice I get paid off more often than if I was deep stacked. I don't worry about bullies too often, and yes the AA v KK citation bein short is an opportunity I can miss out on, but how often does that happen? Flip the script for a moment and what if I'm KK v AA. Now losing 40bb vs 100-200bb won't dent my roll as quickly. 40 turns to 80 and 80 can become 160 easily. Look at that. I have an average stack while risking less.
I'm not saying short stack play is optimal, but I've found it profitable vs the right players. When I get into the hand, I'm usually getting it all in by the turn. This they have to play the board and can't out play me.
And the tilt factor I give players when they see me buy in short and run my stack up huge is worth it. Maybe I'm playing a bigger mental game here rather than mathematical.
Always open to debates tho.
 
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If you only have 40bb and are up against a 100bb stack, let's say you have AA and they have KK and get it all in, you can only win 40bb. You limit yourself how much you can win.

This does not happen as often as we would hope. But It's true being short ill miss out on this opportunity.
 
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What stakes do you guys short stack? I've never seen any winning players up to and including 50NL short stacking. Their ability seems to range from pretty awful all the way up to meh in my experience.
 
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play normal tables and start with 100bbs! man up!
 
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If you are being successful at making money playing a certain way, why would you feel the need to change? It's working! Don't screw it up!

If you are playing scared (which it sounds like you tend to get when you actually accumulate some money on a table) then you will not play your optimal A game. That is the problem.

Play the game where you feel the most comfortable ALL the time. If you play scared, you'll change your style and not play your best.

Cheers
 
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Id say 110% buyin for the max that way when you hit a monstor you can actually get paid off

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