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just wanted to take a different approach on building a roll. going to be starting from scratch. griding 1/2 nlhe. basicly was going to grind $50/day or leave when i hit that 1 hand. the reason i wanted to try this is because i usually get up a good amount the get hit with a bad beat then start playing stupid hands bluff too much etc.. i tilt the worst! anyways im going to start the hit and run bankroll builder in a week or 2. was going to grind until i get my roll to 5k then start playing 2/5 normal without the hit and runs.. just looking to get some opinions.. thanks all.

side note when i start the challenge ill be updating at least once a week.. ill try to update as uch as possible!
 
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pocket4sss said:
just wanted to take a different approach on building a roll. going to be starting from scratch. griding 1/2 nlhe. basicly was going to grind $50/day or leave when i hit that 1 hand. the reason i wanted to try this is because i usually get up a good amount the get hit with a bad beat then start playing stupid hands bluff too much etc.. i tilt the worst! anyways im going to start the hit and run bankroll builder in a week or 2. was going to grind until i get my roll to 5k then start playing 2/5 normal without the hit and runs.. just looking to get some opinions.. thanks all.

side note when i start the challenge ill be updating at least once a week.. ill try to update as uch as possible!
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Don't take this wrong, but I think you have a lot to learn.

Buying in for $50 is really a waste. It only limits the amount you can win. But it does not give you the powet to protect big hands from draws and multiway pots. It is gonna take a lot of luck for you to build a bankroll if you tilt and buy in for 25 BBs.

Making profits in $1/$2 requires a solid understanding of the game, variance, bankroll management, and emotional control.


It is not gonna be as easy as you may think. I have been trying to perfect my game for years.
 
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dont think the live players will appreciate a "hit n run".....try that and you probably wont be invited back.
 
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ill be playing live in casinos lol. online is cool but i live in vegas. games are beyond juicy here.
oh i know.. everyone hates "hit and runers" but i think ill benefit.
 
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I would recommend buying in for at least $100, $200+ would be better. $50 is basically shove pre-flop or on the flop. You are gonna get more action than you can handle, and have to gamble it up. As far as hit n run for $50 regardless of what you buy in for? Definitely not a good idea. It is very easy to lose at poker, and you should maximize your winning sessions. If you are up and get tilted that is the time to quit, even if you have not lost any of your winnings. You may recognize thoughts like "he surely cant have J8 for this straight. He must be sick of being raised, so I will go all in and make him fold." That is when it is time to fold and cash out.
 
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ill be playing live in casinos lol. online is cool but i live in vegas. games are beyond juicy here.
oh i know.. everyone hates "hit and runers" but i think ill benefit.
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If they are juicy, then for goodness sakes buy in for the maximum. You wanto leverage as much as possible when you know you can value bet the max out of a fish.
 
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You're also pretty much pricing yourself out of the ability to set mine. Buying in for $50 is going to be rough. What happens when you raise AQ, miss the flop, and have to fold to significant action? Then a double up won't even help you to reach your goal. Buy in as normal and play solid poker. That's the best way to build a bankroll.
 
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You're in for disaster for a number of reasons, most have been touched on.

1. Buying in for only 25BB, even if it's only for the start, is going to severely limit you, not only to your possible winnings, but how you're going to be perceived at the table. Why wouldn't anyone take a chance against you cheaply when you're bringing a knife to a gunfight.

2. Hit and running will work the first couple times, but after that, you are going to be absolutely demolished at the table. Everyone is going to hate you if you try doing this. Sure you're not at the poker table to make friends, but if they see you doing this with any regularity, you won't get any action whatsoever unless you're way behind. I've even seen tables break because of hit and runners.

Plus hit and runners are pieces of sh*t, please don't be that jackass.
 
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I see everyone commenting regarding him buying in for 50$, I don't think he plans to do this. I believe his plan is that once he hits 50$ up for the day he will walk away.

However on the note of hit-n-run I have to concurr with most that this is not a very nice thing to do, I can't even imagine myself doing this especially live because it is just not good etiquitte (however its spelled) for sure. I mean why not just play your game as is being said by all and if you feel your stack is dwindling away profit then perhaps you could walk away, but why limit to winning 50 and walking away when it could be a day you might win 500.

2 big mistakes with playing poker, not walking away when your losing and walking away when your winning. Both have severly negative effects on a br (i should know, i just hate to walk away period so still trying to learn to just walk away when i am just not winning).

On the live note, i would absolutely love to get myself in a live poker game. So going through live poker withdrawel as its been months, well at least 6+ months without the feel of a deck of cards or clinking of chips......:(
 
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BluffMeAllIn said:
I see everyone commenting regarding him buying in for 50$, I don't think he plans to do this. I believe his plan is that once he hits 50$ up for the day he will walk away.

However on the note of hit-n-run I have to concurr with most that this is not a very nice thing to do, I can't even imagine myself doing this especially live because it is just not good etiquitte (however its spelled) for sure. I mean why not just play your game as is being said by all and if you feel your stack is dwindling away profit then perhaps you could walk away, but why limit to winning 50 and walking away when it could be a day you might win 500.

2 big mistakes with playing poker, not walking away when your losing and walking away when your winning. Both have severly negative effects on a br (i should know, i just hate to walk away period so still trying to learn to just walk away when i am just not winning).

On the live note, i would absolutely love to get myself in a live poker game. So going through live poker withdrawel as its been months, well at least 6+ months without the feel of a deck of cards or clinking of chips......:(
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Good eye about the $50 thing.... whoops.

$50 in profit and then leaving? I don't know about that. It costs me $17 in gas to go to the casino.

Hit and runs piss everyone off, and no one will give you action.

I suggest the OP play his A-game, and grind up his BR. Leaving after only $50 is foolish IMO.
 
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Good eye about the $50 thing.... whoops.

$50 in profit and then leaving? I don't know about that. It costs me $17 in gas to go to the casino.

Hit and runs piss everyone off, and no one will give you action.

I suggest the OP play his A-game, and grind up his BR. Leaving after only $50 is foolish IMO.
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I agree. OP has to keep in mind that he may be able to walk away after getting up to $50 profit, but he can lose a lot more than $50 in one hand, even when he gets his money in ahead. Just seems like he is setting himself up to limit his winnings severely while still risking the same amount of money as he would if he played normally.
 
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success in your new challenge! looks interesting will be pending thread! :)
 
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is a good strategy to hit and run

I applied in nl10

backrooll goes well my $ 10 to deposit
* and went up to $ 25 in 5 days

slowly but surely :)
 
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Hit and run can be a decent strategy if you play live, especially if you find some soft tables. But I would suggest you not limit to $50 a day. Limit your losses NOT your WINNINGS.

I would suggest buying in for $200, if you drop to $100, then leave. If you build to over $250, leave if you drop to $200. If you build to over $300 then leave if you drop to $250, etc. This way you can max out your winning steaks while somewhat minimizing risk.

Looking forward to the updates.
 
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I agree with UnluckyDude. I would do this at the Seminole Hard Rock Tampa. You can switch tables and just pocket your winnings and buy back in for 200 if you get to 250 on the first table. You just have to make sure to follow your stop loss rule.
 
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Bad strategy. I used to play hit and run in the beginning when I started playing poker, but one way or another I found that you can not run from variance. Focus on how many hands or how many hours you want to play per day, not how many BI should you win. By the way, I think Live is even worse because the other players will hate you.
 
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im not buying in for 50! lol. im playing live cash at the casinos here in vegas. max buy is 300. unlucky thats a good way to look at it. the games out here are beyond soft. my game isnt my problem. i dont think im great or anything but decent enough. my biggest problem is tilting and wanting to be back where i was when i take a bad beat. for example i could be 250 up then lose 175 to a bad beat.. idk why but i cant keep my head off of getting back up 250. its annoying and worst of all i know its my weakness yet i keep doing it. thats why i think the hit and run will be good for me. anyways i think ill be starting early next week.
 
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pocket4sss said:
im not buying in for 50! lol. im playing live cash at the casinos here in vegas. max buy is 300. unlucky thats a good way to look at it. the games out here are beyond soft. my game isnt my problem. i dont think im great or anything but decent enough. my biggest problem is tilting and wanting to be back where i was when i take a bad beat. for example i could be 250 up then lose 175 to a bad beat.. idk why but i cant keep my head off of getting back up 250. its annoying and worst of all i know its my weakness yet i keep doing it. thats why i think the hit and run will be good for me. anyways i think ill be starting early next week.
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It's a psychological crutch you have to overcome.

How do you feel if your plan to hit and run for 50usd end up as a -200 dollar session after getting stacked?
 
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You need to maximize your winnings to counter and keep ahead of your losses.
If youre only leaving once you hit $50 in profit then one time getting stacked will cost you 4 days worth of profit.
 
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well if it works to hit n run and build. then why dont you just keep that strategy. thats if it works
 
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This entire thread goes against everything I have ever known about poker.

Hit and run-ing for $50 at a time is - without a doubt - doomed to fail.

Why anyone would say anything else is beyond me.


Give it a try OP, let us know how it works out for ya.


Furthermore, if OP can't even avoid tilting, how will he ever win consistently?

You need mental control and balance to profit at poker, period.
 
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If your going to hit n run it's been said a thousand times don't hit an run for 50 try to get up 50BB at least before leaving 75-100BB can be a good way of building and protecting..

Just a suggestion if your going to hit an run don't make it look like your hit an running, after hitting your number play tight for a bit even if you only play AA-KK then leave or even fake a phone call lol. winning a big hand and leaving right after is -EV against regs who won't let you do it again an again knowing you will do it.
 
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