Hey Dorkus

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Or any other person that is good with the mathematical side of poker. In a three handed pot, approx how much are your odds lowered when holding a pocket pair?
 
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I don't understand the question. How much are what odds lowered? >.>
 
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what are the odds of getting dealt one?

What are the odds of it being good?

Playing 3 handed compared to 9 handed, the odds of a PP, Ace high, etc get better? Thats why when you get down to less people your supposed to loosen your starting hand requirments.
 
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My bad, I phrased it really wrong, I was having a hard time explaining to someone that your chances of winning with a pocket pair is greatly deminished when two other people are all in preflop. I didn't mean 3 handed, I completely screwed up with my ?, sorry Dorkus. Do you understand what I'm getting at now?
 
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Ok I did a bunch of calculations using one of the texas holdem calculators, and from what I noticed is this:

Any 2 LIVE cards, unsuited, like 93 off, 72 off etc. have about a 10 to 12 percent chance to win against pocket aces. For every random hand that has 2 live cards the chance that the pocket aces will hold up drops by the same amount, ie. 10 to 12%.

2 examples:

AA vs 93 offsuit
AA 87%
93 12%

AA vs 93o vs 72o
AA 75%
93 12%
72 12%

Suits come into play obviously, against suited cards:

AA vs 93 suited
AA 82%
93 17%

AcAs vs 93d vs 72h
AA 67%
93 17%
72 16%

Hope that helps.
 
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Depends if we're talking AA, 88, or 22 here. Depends on the situation too (especially if in a tourney), in other words on what range of hands your opponents are likely to have.

It's pretty impossible to give even an estimate at an answer at the moment. :p
 
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Depends if we're talking AA, 88, or 22 here. Depends on the situation too (especially if in a tourney), in other words on what range of hands your opponents are likely to have.

It's pretty impossible to give even an estimate at an answer at the moment. :p

According to my calculations, the accuracy of an answer given with the current information would be at best 22.3% accurate on every third monday of the 2nd month while the moon is waning and the sprites are dancing the third jig of the morrow.
 
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It's 23.6%, you forgot to carry the 1.
 
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According to my calculations, the accuracy of an answer given with the current information would be at best 22.3% accurate on every third monday of the 2nd month while the moon is waning and the sprites are dancing the third jig of the morrow.

lmao :D :D :D
 
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Thanks effexor, that's what I was looking for. I wasn't really wanting some definite answer, just a general to go by when the two opponents hold any two random cards
 
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