[HELP] Identifying my Leaks (May 2018)

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Hi friends of CardsChat. I have been attempting to complete a bankroll challenge and have been posting my results on a regular basis. Recently, I have been on a crazy downswing due to playing really really bad. I am not afraid to admit that, even after some of the terrible coolers that have influenced some bad tilt during my sessions.

I am posting my most recent results and I was wondering if anyone can please help identify any major leaks and leave me any suggestions, based on roughly 4k hands (specifically 6-max). I am familiar with most of the major leaks like attempting to steal too often from SB/BB, but more input from the community would be appreciated.

I am focusing on improving in 6-max.

Attached to this thread are screenshots from poker tracker, which you can view in the spoiler below. Any information regarding stats like VPIP/PFR are filtered to ONLY 2NL 6-max. My overall sessions and graphs are provided which are not filtered at all. I am probably shooting myself for providing this information but if I stick to my integrity, I feel this thread will be outdated real quickly.

OVERALL BANKROLL PROGRESSION:
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6-MAX INFORMATION:
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6 max is a very tough game. Full ring is much easier. Forget that 6 max and you'll find yourself playing better.
 
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6 max is a very tough game. Full ring is much easier. Forget that 6 max and you'll find yourself playing better.


I play $1/$3 live FR but i really wanna train for online 6-max, and eventually train for headsup with a substantial bankroll
 
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This is purely speculation and from bad player:

Obviously blue line “Money Won With Showdown” is the culprit, the shape is totally anti-symmetric than it should be. Thus you see too many showdowns. Usually this is form of calling rivers too light, for you though Call R Eff is high, too high from top of my head, so calling too light can’t be the reason.

What is left are at least being a) too aggressive with marginal hands and b) calling flop/turn too often and then giving up river c) Overvaluing hand strength

a) You river Afq is 63, for me that sounds too high, especially if we consider you are VPIP 30 player and your cbet reasonable high.

b) Can’t see stat for this

c) This is likely given you come from live background. TPTK(live) = is top 2(online), TPBK is hardly ever 3 streets even when calling, and against normal player even TPTK is usually beat when money goes in.

Suggested corrections: a) Cut your opening range, example 18-22 (nitty tag) so your river range improves automatically. Also given your relative high PFR and still wide cap between VPIP/PFR hints you call with way too weak holdings. b) For old data cut some CB:ts c) Reform hand values on your head d) Don’t try to bluff fish, I mean against some players optimal CB freq is 30%, if you try to force them out of the pot they just get excited. e) Against too aggressive players on 6max most effective play is to check and let him barrel the money in, don’t be that player. I mean sure sometimes, but not too often.

Also run leak tracker, you have that on PT.

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Hi there,

i applaud you for your honesty and for sharing data, can you confirm for me though - the stakes you normally play at?

PM if you want.

Regards

pirateglenn
 
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Hi there,

i applaud you for your honesty and for sharing data, can you confirm for me though - the stakes you normally play at?

PM if you want.

Regards

pirateglenn


$2NL, 6-max
 
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Hiya,

so is your bankroll reflected by the stakes you play..as that level for me is high if its a low BR.

Its good to look at this..cash play is not an area i have ventured into yet.

Cheers

pirateglenn
 
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Hiya,

so is your bankroll reflected by the stakes you play..as that level for me is high if its a low BR.

Its good to look at this..cash play is not an area i have ventured into yet.

Cheers

pirateglenn


yes - size of br is reflected by the stakes you play, regardless of whether you are a cash or tournament player.
 
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6 max is a very tough game. Full ring is much easier. Forget that 6 max and you'll find yourself playing better.

Suggested corrections: a) Cut your opening range, example 18-22 (nitty tag) so your river range improves automatically. Also given your relative high PFR and still wide cap between VPIP/PFR hints you call with way too weak holdings. b) For old data cut some CB:ts c) Reform hand values on your head d) Don’t try to bluff fish, I mean against some players optimal CB freq is 30%, if you try to force them out of the pot they just get excited. e) Against too aggressive players on 6max most effective play is to check and let him barrel the money in, don’t be that player. I mean sure sometimes, but not too often.

Also run leak tracker, you have that on PT.


Just played a 6 hour session with four tables, 940 hands total. Won 55.32bb/100 at 2NL 6-max after implementing some changes. Provided below is a spoiler with some stats based on those 940 hands, please let me know what you think!

Where did I improve? What can I improve on still?

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So...
1) Your sample is wayyyyy too small. Get another 75k+ hands or so and then talk about leaks. For some people, that sample size is a single session.

This last two comments are general because the sample is so small -
2) Cut down on the hands you're playing, and scale back your 3-betting.
3) You're being too aggressive based on your graph.

You need to find a better balance because you're trying to push everyone off all of their hands... at 2NL! It's not going to happen.

Join the study group I host here.
 
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So...
1) Your sample is wayyyyy too small. Get another 75k+ hands or so and then talk about leaks. For some people, that sample size is a single session.

This last two comments are general because the sample is so small -
2) Cut down on the hands you're playing, and scale back your 3-betting.
3) You're being too aggressive based on your graph.

You need to find a better balance because you're trying to push everyone off all of their hands... at 2NL! It's not going to happen.

Join the study group I host here.


someone referred me to your study group and i just got the book!!!! i will be reading the book and the thread posts until i catch up starting next week (because i have final exams this week to take care of)
 
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If you're playing 6-max, you may want to try using Leak Buster poker leak software, which helps you identify existing poker leaks in your ongoing game, BEFORE you even commit them. This buys you time to rethink your strategy and make quicker decisions so your bankroll isn't depleted.
 
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You really want at'least 10k hands to start getting a feel for how your playing.Also add RFI to your stats which is the unopened pot % and PF cold call raiser.As john said said as'well cut back on the aggression at 2nl it's all about making hands 3betting mainly for value and picking some good spots to bluff without going crazy.A general feel on that sample size though is your just pushing it a little to much with the aggression in all spots.Just play very solid TAG abc poker.
 
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When you have a large database of hands in your tracking software begin a hand history review. Filter by hands where you lost the biggest pots. Watch what you did during each hand and try to figure out where you went wrong. I wrote a journal about this and I go back to it when I need to refresh my leak busting.


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