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so im running into my first turbulace into my goal of making 1k from scartch by the end of 2014 ive currently got 60 on bovada and am playing zone my question is im set mining with pocket pairs and suited connecters but would this be profitable on zone or just the regular tables
also i am playing hands like JKs in early position with a 3bb raise would this be alright i definitly loosen up the later position i am in and i think i definitly can be profitable at zone i just need a little guidance thanks for reading if youve gotten this far
 
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how are you set mining with suited connectors.?. JKs are the first and last letters of JunK for a reason. you are likely to be dominated when you hit a hand. i.e hit your king and opponents are likely to have KQ AK and hit your jack and opponents are likely to have AJ to continue. You will be playing a guessing game out of position with a likely dominated hand.....recipe for winning a small pot or loosing a large one which isn't a good proposition.
 
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From my experience set mining is zone is kind of rough because of the amount of 3 bets you face pre. Just make sure you are getting 12 to 1 and you are attempting to set mine against the right villain(deepstacked).


Like Keith said KJ is a garbage hand and has reverse implied odds when you flop top pair, with that said it is not a horrible hand to open with on the button or CO in 6 max but from early position, just fold it.
 
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oh yeah definitly a fold in early or mid position haha and yeah i dont think im gonna be set mining any more in zone unless im on the button aswell...

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also a few other questions what should i be doing with hands like JAs JAo QKs QKo in early position and another question what should i do with PPs like 99 1010 and jj in early position also grinded an hour of 5nl zpne and lost about 20 BB hers one of the really bad hands could i have played this better?

so what happened was the guy raised 10c in middle position i reraised to 20c in lp everyone folds except him flop is well 944r i bet half pot he calls yurn come 2 and draws for a flush and straight although its around impossible that hes got a straight draw so i bet half on turn he shoves (1.30) but i had already bet around 45c so i call for 85c to get into a 2.65c pot and he turns over 99 could i have played this hand any better if so how? also would like to know how i could post hands on here

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I play very tight from early and middle position and raise light in late position and the button. The pace of Zone poker is so quick I don’t mind folding hands I might have considered raising before. I find that playing very tight, pretty much being a NIT works better for me.

In that 99 hand you reference, when they shove that is a red flag. I don’t see most zone players doing that behind. It sucks but have to consider folding. Odd though that they just call on the flop and check shove. I notice some fishy players always bet like that though. They seem to have the mentally that you can only get value out of check raising.
 
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thats what i was thinking...that he cant have a set or three of a kind because he checked the turn and the river so hes probably got a pp of the sort and most likely a worse one then mine since his raise was dismal and then jyst a call preflop kind of weird i might grind another hour or so later on today and see how that turns out :)
also should probably tell yall that if my br drops below 40 on bovada im going to stop playing zone and just stick to 1.10 sng and mtt until it reaches 60 again right now its at 58 lets hope i can conquer this with 4 buy ins haha :D

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also a few other questions what should i be doing with hands like JAs JAo QKs QKo in early position and another question what should i do with PPs like 99 1010 and jj in early position also grinded an hour of 5nl zpne and lost about 20 BB hers one of the really bad hands could i have played this better?

so what happened was the guy raised 10c in middle position i reraised to 20c in lp everyone folds except him flop is well 944r i bet half pot he calls yurn come 2 and draws for a flush and straight although its around impossible that hes got a straight draw so i bet half on turn he shoves (1.30) but i had already bet around 45c so i call for 85c to get into a 2.65c pot and he turns over 99 could i have played this hand any better if so how? also would like to know how i could post hands on here

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These hands are OK to open with on a 6 max table from early position but if you get 3 bet, you got to dump them and move on. 99-jj you can definitely consider 4 betting with or calling if you have the proper implied odds to stack the villain if you flop a set.

The great thing about Bovada Zone is that you can be a total NIT and no one will ever know :fisheye: That works both ways though.

In the hand where villain had 99 what did you have? Also, if you are going to raise pre please don't min raise. You should of raised to $0.30 in that spot, even though he still would of called you. Also, set mining in early position is not bad, just try not to do it with 22-77.
 
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ahh ok so 99-jj is fine for set mining in just abiut all positions if we are both deepstacked? and i had QQ the reason i called the shove is becausets VERY unlikely he or she has got AA or KK so i thought it was most lilely a pp or a pair of nines he or she sure didnt play it like they hit there full house on the flop by check calling...

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so after the first day of grinding ive lost over 3 bi...i dont think im cut out for zone haha

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so after the first day of grinding ive lost over 3 bi...i dont think im cut out for zone haha

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I avoid it myself but there are days you are going to lose 3 buy ins at your best game getting it in good everytime. Can't quit because of one bad day.
 
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i mean i went in to it with only 12 buy ins and now im down to just under 10 in a day...i dont think im ready for those kind of swings until i get my br up to over 500 and i dont want to find out if im bad or not lol

although i will say i did get a shit ton of bad beats through out the day eh what can i say i took a shot and i missed cant hit if you dont shoot :eek:

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i mean i went in to it with only 12 buy ins and now im down to just under 10 in a day...i dont think im ready for those kind of swings until i get my br up to over 500 and i dont want to find out if im bad or not lol

although i will say i did get a shit ton of bad beats through out the day eh what can i say i took a shot and i missed cant hit if you dont shoot :eek:

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If you are inexperienced for sure stick to full ring. 6 max is harder than FR and zone is harder than regular 6 max, IMO.
 
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well ive only been playong for a year...

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well ive only been playong for a year...

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I have played for about 7 months and can beat FR 5NL on Bovada, but probably not Zone. I have only played about 1k hands of Zone but the level of aggression is high and I just find FR so much easier and I am all about the easier game and building my bank roll right now.
 
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I'm currently playing 5nl zone exclusively and has been doing fairly well. i only have a few hours to play a day if at all and zone really speeds up the hand count. i double up so many times on sets. i usually call a preflop raise with pp with 3to1 odds.
 
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well ive got 1.5 bi so plz show me how to double up on a set

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This is 6max? Fee's 6max guide would be a good start for you, despite being old as dirt. Looks as if you're having some confusion over preflop ranges and situations, but that stuff is pretty simple (comparatively speaking). There are online charts and guides etc that can help you there. Oh and when it comes to noobs playing Zone perhaps your default should be a rather nitty approach. I can see that working out well at 5NL on Bovada. In 100NL rush regs will double barrel quite a bit but a triple is always the nuts lol. Second boat no good etc. Somehow ppl keep paying them.
 
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idk itd take an awful lot of confincing to convince me to stick to zone but i can see how its profitable for example there was this hanf today when i had QQ guy in early position raises i reraise and other guy goes all in one had JJ and other had KAo so i can see hoe its profitable and i tried to little research but i couldent find anything....could maybe someone post a link or two? i mean i rather play this than tournament because its so convenient but at the same time it hurts to be a loser st poker and i dont want to gk back when i lost 15 tonight it was a big blow to my confidence and night before was 10 on full flush

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i think ill lower my br requirement to 30 and if i go below that i can grind 1.10 sng but can someone teach me a little more about set mining

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I will say the answer is really based on your position. I play very tight from early and middle position and raise light in late position and the button. In addition, the decision to raise your bet also depend on your opponents. When they become aggressive, you may want to play tightly, otherwise you can use your 3bet or shoving strategy.
 
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this is a good fold any opinions?

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oh lmfao my bad i had QKo and hers another hand where i called an ai of 16c to get into around a 90c pot opinions pretty sure both of these plays are good plays :)
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and i called on the flop

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