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ok then what about this one

25/50c cash game and i've played 5 hands and won three by being the aggressor,don't know any of my opponents but they all have around $30 in chips.Its a 6 seater game with one sitting out.

I'm utg with AK off and raise 4* the BB,i;m called by the SB and BB.

Flop comes 443rainbow

I bet the pot to represent an overpair and get a call from the big blind,the SB having folded.

turn is another 3

I raise $6 thinking unless he has a overpair my Ace is good for at least a split.Another call and i'm nervous now!(possible quads )
river is the Kh and i bet $10 and i'm called.
what do you think his hole cards were?
 
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A3? Problem is it could be anything - you raised 4 x BB - so that makes $1 right? Could call that with absolutely anything! And "I bet the pot to represent an overpair" - at that level more often than not you're not representing anything, your opponents dont care what you've got, what you could have and what you've bet - if they've got a hand, they've got a hand! I hate ring games (can you tell?!).
 
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Any reads at all would be helpful here, but assuming "typical" opponents, I'd guess this:

Guess 1: A medium pair in the hole. 55-TT. He's afraid that you're holding a higher PP, but is reluctant to let his overpair go.

Guess 2: Ax, and wants to "keep you honest", hoping that A-high will take the pot.

Guess 3: A3s/K3s. This feels less likely unless he's a really weak/tight player. He can't possibly figure that you have a 4 and would raise UTG with that, so his full house should be a huge favorite.

In fact, scrap K3s. Let's say he had a 3 or a 4, and put you on an overpair. It's possible that he was slowplaying you until the river, but then a K fell, and he got scared thinking that you might have KK in the hand. That's a very scared play, but it's plausible, I guess.

Actually, screw slowplaying as well. I can't fathom someone slowplaying on the turn when you have position on him. A checkraise on the turn would have been correct, but he only called.

We surely must be able to rule out KK, 33 and 44. I suppose AA is a possibility, and he just freaked out about the possibility of being up against a full house.

Yeah, I'll go with a pocket pair. 55-AA, but not KK.
 
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All reasonable guesses and pretty consistent with what was going through my mind until he turned over 9/4 offsuit!
I asked him why he called a big raise from the utg with that garbage and got a load of crappy abuse back along the lines of "dry your eyes loser" etc but i really wanted to know why he'd done it.
It all ended up nice though as i busted his A high straight with my Qs over Ks boat and pocketed his entire stack.
To be honest their was some truly awful play on the table and after i'd creamed $100 i buggered off to the $1/$2 tables and never saw a card all night as usual:rolleyes:
 
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I'm not as surprised to see that he played 94o as I am to hear that he didn't raise you. Jaheebus.
 
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I was gonna guess 22, seen it happen before.
 
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F Paulsson said:
I'm not as surprised to see that he played 94o as I am to hear that he didn't raise you. Jaheebus.

I'd have raised the arse off it myself FP.To be honest i should've give it up at the turn but i was in a "invincible" mode and now i wonder if he'd have bet it out if i'd checked.
Its a funny old game sometimes.
 
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Is there a posibility you over played AK? I beleive at some point no matter how erational his hole cards, he was letting you know, I can beat an overpair.

Wow you played that really bad.

You overplayed AK. When you represented an overpair, he answered:
I acknowlege your overpair and I can BEAT it.

He saw your self admitted very aggressive style, and layed back allowing you to try to ram A high through his SET, which later improves to a boat! Then you beg him to tell you why? Oh man dude.

Pre flop, you are 66% to his 33%. He has implied odds to call, and boy did you pay him off. He said to himself this guy is running over the table I gotta make a stand, and defend this blind. Then, bam he hits.
NH well played.

Also, he appropriately takes advantage of your hyper aggressive play, but becoming passive.

Don't be too proud of your boat beating a broadway straight, That is going to happen. I mean you laugh at the dude for losing wiht a broadway straight to your boat... But, you lost to his boat with A HIGH!

Your opponents are customers, lets treat them with respect. If you ever want to know why someone played the way they did, analyze your game. Please don't akd them in a chat box.

Sorry for all the attitude in this one. These players that you drive away from the game, are how I put food on my table. I will defend them everytime.

Bill
 
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I think I'm going to agree with Bill on this one. As for your pre-flop raise, that's a tuffy. I'm one of those players that defends my blind. Sometimes to much. Some times it pays off as it did for the 9-4.
 
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