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Hello everyone, another interesting hand open for review

UTG opens pot 2.5x BB, cutoff 3-bet to 8.5x BB, button 4-bets to 18.5x BB... You're in the SB and look down at A/K of hearts.

*you have no history and are playing a game where everybody is sitting on 300+ BB's

Q: What do you do? ( Your stack is 200 BB's)
 
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Was the cut off a bad player? if a good player just fold

also you will basically be coinflipping at best if u jam and if u call playing the whole hand oop
 
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As i said, no history before..
I did folded it but after that i was considering if i was supposed to do 5bet to 39.5 BB's and wait...i mean, lots to consider here because i'm just curious what UTG will do, i'm not worried about CO and if it folds around to BTN and he shoves it can be easy call... worse case he flips QQ or KK and i blink an ACE, easy game GG :D
 
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Hello everyone, another interesting hand open for review

UTG opens pot 2.5x BB, cutoff 3-bet to 8.5x BB, button 4-bets to 18.5x BB... You're in the SB and look down at A/K of hearts.

*you have no history and are playing a game where everybody is sitting on 300+ BB's

Q: What do you do? ( Your stack is 200 BB's)
On a table of unknowns, I would have to fold, with holding only A-K suited(as pretty as it is), you've most likely lost 1 maybe 2 cards needed to hit a pair, based on the betting.
 
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Depends on what stakes you're playing.

At a smaller stakes game this is basically 100% fold.

If you're at higher stakes it gets trickier but probably still fold given you're saying we have zero history to work with
 
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On a table of unknowns, I would have to fold, with holding only A-K suited(as pretty as it is), you've most likely lost 1 maybe 2 cards needed to hit a pair, based on the betting.

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fold. even if 1 player hold a any pair the best you can hope is semi coin-flip of ~33%, with any other Ax too.
 
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Depends on what stakes you're playing.

At a smaller stakes game this is basically 100% fold.

If you're at higher stakes it gets trickier but probably still fold given you're saying we have zero history to work with

I'm usually playing 3$/5$ NL
 
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On 3/6 NL, 300+ deep, you have a tricky call here. Im not worried about the cut off as the range there is quite wide, but the BTN and UTG im worried about. If you call and UTG 5 bets, you have to fold. Because if you had a hand to jam would you have done so in your 4-bet. As pretty as AK looks in that particular spot can be almost dead given the hand action and have you drawing to hearts or straight possibilities, in which your opponents probably have some of those cards to spike a gin flop.

It may be too risky to cold call here, raising has little merit, so its jam it in or fold. I look at AK of hearts as like 88-TT in this spot. What would you do with those hands there? Most likely fold as its way too many BB to set mine and even if you do hit a set if an over rolls off you may be dead.

Hope that helps!
 
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Hello everyone, another interesting hand open for review

UTG opens pot 2.5x BB, cutoff 3-bet to 8.5x BB, button 4-bets to 18.5x BB... You're in the SB and look down at A/K of hearts.

*you have no history and are playing a game where everybody is sitting on 300+ BB's

Q: What do you do? ( Your stack is 200 BB's)

Fold like a nit.

Her name is Rio and she dances on the sand
Just like that river twisting through a dusty land
This is what should be playing on your internal sound track.

Think about this: the #1 hole opens. Unless he just happened to pick the wrong time to put one over, you have to respect that open, but he got no respect. The CO isn't stealing here, and the BTN damn sure isn't. You can be sure someone's got a pocket pair, and a Big Slick is a 'dog to any pocket pair. At best, CO had something like ( A, broadway) BTN has a Big Slick, and if you call, you're probably splitting.

You're badly OOP here, so how are you going to make any money here? If you flop a flush, straight, two pair, or trips, those flops are going to look very threatening. If you check, they'll check behind and you lose a street of value. If you lead out, they'll find that fold button pretty quickum.

What if you flop TPTK? The only way you're getting action is if you're beat. You're risking 18.5XBB to win the least or lose the most.

It gets even worse: your 18.5XBB call isn't closing the action. What do you do if the CO or BTN jams? You've just given away 18.5XBB for absolutely nothing.If you call off the rest of your stack, then you're really donating. You're either flipping if BTN shows up with pocket queens, and you're crushed if he has pocket aces or kings.

Avoid RIO situations like the plague.
 
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Fold pre unless you have a good read on the players
As already mentioned OOP, not closing action and AK goes down in value when deep
 
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