The hand that put me on megaTILT

I've had a good week of grinding .25/.50 on bovada so I decided to move up to .50/1, a game that I am a bit under rolled for. I had an okay day of just grinding along, didn't really have any big wins or losses, and then I got on the losing side of an AA vs KK situation, no biggy, something like that would NEVER tilt me. AA vs KK is part of the game and we've all been on both sides. you just move on.
So I rebought and the hand that quickly ensued put me in a rage.
6max 100NL on bovada
action folds to button (villain) who raises to 3$.
SB folds, HERO reraises to 10$ in BB with 7h6h
Button calls (pot 20.50)
FLOP: 4h 5h 5s
I debate whether or not to lead out, and determine that I want the hand to end on this street. I check to the initial raiser who makes a strange bet of $15.00
At this point I don't really want to call but the bet just feels incredibly fishy, I thought this player was weak based on the information available to me, this player would not play 1010-AA or a steal that turned into trips in such a fashion.
I raised to 42$ because I thought I would get my opponent to fold and I had an incredibly strong drawing hand.
Opponent instashoves and I sigh a bit (expecting a bigger flush draw, or an overpair)
Opponent shows 33 in the hole and I brick the last two cards.
WHAT. THE. EXPLETIVE. WAS. THAT.
I'm taking a break before I start 4bet squeezing with rags and doing stupid things

You're the one with initiative going to the flop. If you bet it wouldn't be 'leading out' but a fairly standard c-bet.

What an odd hand lol. I would love to play 1k hands against that guy...

huh?what did you have? how are we honestly supposed to make a comment on this? lol

Think he puts u on AK or something and stick to that also with ur bet of 42 $ . So his shove was ok for him. Next time u win
gl on the felts

If that put you on mega tilt, then you need to look at your temperement for the game.

Karozi,

i think you have to go to basis of poker

you can not make such a bet with a draw, because despite you are a bit ahead (15 outs and 2 streets, will give like 2/3 of chances) but to going so high,

now, you can erase 9 from your outs is the villain has two hh in his hand with a higher kicker then you have only 6 outs and you are way behind

next time keep your bets smaller in that situation,

Ranny said:

If that put you on mega tilt, then you need to look at your temperement for the game.

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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^, in addition you might want to give some thought to bankroll Management.

First mistake bankroll
Second mistake bankroll
Third that rebuy after aa kk hurt if you weren't rolled even if subconsciously
The reraise from bb with that hand looks tilts from getgo
The overly large bet to induce calling from villain is a key tool in nearly every bag at these levels.

Not sure how you get away from it on flop. I'd be steamy too.

Why do so many players on this forum seem to be allergic to converting a hand history? It's really difficult to decipher the hand when you first open the thread otherwise.

Turn and river should've both been threes. Unless he held the 3h that is, in which case turn and river should've both been fives.

obv. stack sizes are necessary to give an opinion, I forgot to mention that component, I did say that I had just rebought so I was about 100BB deep and opponent was deeper (which is actually why the hand was somewhat tilty, the reshove didn't make any sense)
to the person who said opponent put me on ak aq aj kq type hands, that is a fair assumption, but wishful thinking on opponents part
to the person who said a "lead out" would qualify as a c-bet, did you consider the preflop action? button raised initially, I reraised and they called. Both sides indicated strength, nullifying the need for a "standard" c-bet, it was a matter of preference in terms of how I wanted to play the hand. If I had lead out and opponent flatted, then a brick hits the turn (say, Qd) then that smashed opponents range and leaves me in a position where i'm drawing on the turn (which is far worse then drawing on the flop). I just lost a ton of equity and the probability of my opponent folding has decreased substantially, both because the turn card is in their range and because the pot size has warranted it. I chose to check raise as a semi-bluff because I actually believed my opponent would fold, they had to call 27$ to see a turn card would have effectively priced out anything but pocket pairs, which would mostly come over the top. When he shoved that was my expectation, something along the lines of 88, 99, 1010, or a remote possibility of two big hearts. At that point I can't fold because calling is incredibly +ev, my only gripe was that he didn't fold to my check raise, which was designed to make this player fold the hand.

Disclaimer: I will never be a player who complains about opponents making mistakes and then losing in +ev situations, this was an interesting exception because of the board texture, the way the hand player out, etc. It also compounded the fact that I had just gotten into an AA vs KK spot. It was just a bad session that led to a post regarding the hand, we all have good and bad sessions.
When I say I'm on tilt, I don't mean actually going and spewing in .50/1, I was liable to start playing less than optimal poker so I took a temporary step back - like any intelligent player would do.

karozi

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whenever you bet on a flush and straight draw, your taking a chance. I dont care how many outs there are. Sometimes, you need to sigh and just move on

You put yourself in this situation by inflating the pot with a speculative hand. OOP with 45 suited is a tough situation to play. But once you hit a dream flop, you gotta go after it hard.

I usually check shove on the flop OOP because barring a flopped boat my straight flush draw is in good shape and I have tons of fold equity. The shove puts the pressure on villain and it eliminates tough decisions on the turn and river.

Or I will check call instead of check raising which commits a larger portion of my stack in with just a drawing hand.

To sum up, I would rather either just take the pot right there with a shove or put my whole stack in there with a monster draw knowing I am likely ahead with 15 outs rather than inflate the pot with a drawing hand OOP and less fold equity.

you are a 60% favourite postflop. You are not a huge favourite. It looks like a risky bet to me to reraise.
blueskies options make more sense to me than value betting like you did.

jj20002 said:

Karozi,

i think you have to go to basis of poker

you can not make such a bet with a draw, because despite you are a bit ahead (15 outs and 2 streets, will give like 2/3 of chances) but to going so high,

now, you can erase 9 from your outs is the villain has two hh in his hand with a higher kicker then you have only 6 outs and you are way behind

next time keep your bets smaller in that situation,

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....erm..^^^THIS^^^ basically what he said.
The reality of the situation boiled down to it's simplest essence is, you did NOT actually have a hand! You were working towards a hand of course. And, yes its a great drawing hand (straight or flush) possibility.

BUT, the truth of the matter is that you dont bet so much without the actual hand in this situation. A little bet to put your villains on notice would've been appropriate. But, not $42 appropriate in this scenario.
The villain had two pair. Yes it was a crappy and low two pair...but it was still a made hand versus your possibility of a hand.

.....and yeah I learned this the hard way too from $$experience$$.

Remind me to tell you the story of how my suited AK was utterly defeated by my villian's two pair of 2-8off when I went ALL-IN on a $2/$4NL table of very aggro and loose players.

Who on earth hold/plays 2-8off?!!?? *sigh*
But, I digress.

Never a regret. Always a lesson.
Not only in poker, but also in life.