Graph for my last 45k hands... what do you think?

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Playing mainly 6max 5NL + a few 10NL sessions (just about 2% of all hands). My stats: 21/16; Afq 51; WTSD 26,4%, WSD 53%
 

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Youre definitely losing too much in BB. Play tighter in blinds , try to play like 18/15 or 19/16. And fold more in BB if you have a mediocre hand and villain is betting big.
 
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Thanks Speedexas! Yes, I must get tighter in the blinds.
Plus my overall stats would be much better if I'd play more disciplined... work in progress :)
 
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I think your stats are pretty solid, you can continue to play good poker.
 
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Thanks Magician but I don't play good poker :) I consider myself a semi-fish (+ some of my decisions still being uberfishy every now and then) and the very small profits I've made so far mainly come from whales and extremely predictable regs.
 
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Money won without showdown should improve some, you need to find some spots to bluff, especially in 6max. The blinds should not be your 2nd and 3rd highest VPIP spots, you should be as tight in the blinds as you are UTG unless you are dealing with a chronic stealer or something and then you should try 3betting them.

It seems crazy how many people float your CBets when you only CBet in the low 60% range. What happened the last 20k hands to make your redline crash so hard?
 
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It seems crazy how many people float your CBets when you only CBet in the low 60% range. What happened the last 20k hands to make your redline crash so hard?
Very good question and I honestly don't have a clue...
 
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So you played 45.000 hands on 5NL and won a net total of less than $20, am I correct??
 
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@DonV73: Well observed ;-) And if your comment is supposed to suggest that this is a bad performance I agree. This is also why I posted the graph... to get some helpful and constructive feedback.
 
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I think your stats are pretty solid, you can continue to play good poker.

You have to be kidding , can't you see that hes losing a ton of money in BB. 18$ after 46k hands . So his WR is about 0.8bb and thats very low at NL5 or NL10.
 
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@DonV73: Well observed ;-) And if your comment is supposed to suggest that this is a bad performance I agree. This is also why I posted the graph... to get some helpful and constructive feedback.

I understand :) Well, I don't know why in depth, but I think that you should focus on the BB position being the issue. Ofcourse for everyone the BB is the biggest losing spot, but you lost almost all your winnings on the BB alone. That's just too much imo. Maybe you could provide some more detail on how your play on the BB alone. Or you could going into your HH asn search for the biggest losing pots in the BB and replay them and try to see what went wrong. Or post some of those hands here.
 
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You're cold calling from the BB too much I think.
Remember, cold calling BB means you will be OOP to almost everyone and you have no initiative. It would take a godly flopping powers to profit having a VPIP of 21 pct I would think....
 
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Wow I just noticed that loss rate is actually higher than if you have FOLDED every single hand you get in the BB.

Jeezus christ, stop playing the BB with anything other than AK, JJ+ in heads up pots and add pocket pairs for multiway pots see how it goes.

EDIT: urgh never mind, BB/100 in the image really meant bb/100. Even so, -52bb/100 is pretty abysmal. It shouldnt be far too worse than 30bb/100
 
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Wow I just noticed that loss rate is actually higher than if you have FOLDED every single hand you get in the BB.

Jeezus christ, stop playing the BB with anything other than AK, JJ+ in heads up pots and add pocket pairs for multiway pots see how it goes.

EDIT: urgh never mind, BB/100 in the image really meant bb/100. Even so, -52bb/100 is pretty abysmal. It shouldnt be far too worse than 30bb/100



What is the difference?
 
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^^ BB/100 is twice bb/100 value, BB/100 use to be the standard on PokerTracker but not any more, it is bb now even when it show BB^^
(BB/100 is big bet/100, bb/100 is big blind/100)
 
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^^ BB/100 is twice bb/100 value, BB/100 use to be the standard on PokerTracker but not any more, it is bb now even when it show BB^^
(BB/100 is big bet/100, bb/100 is big blind/100)

Ahh ok, I was reading about this a week ago or so and it was kind of weird, BB/100 is basically outdated now and was used mainly for limit play right?
 
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Thanks to all of you who commented :) Yeah... I'll cut down cold calling from SB and BB. Already can see the difference... :) ***shaking head because I wonder why I didn't realise that much earlier and on my own.***
 
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If this is pt4 then that BB/100 actually means bb/100

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oh just saw someone already pointed that out lol must continue reading threads before i decide to post midway through reading posts lol
 
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post in the polished poker with this too... but not sure if someone mentioned it, but your 3-bet range is a bit backwards. Most of your 3-bets should be coming from position. Also for how tight you're playing, 26% WTSD is kind of low. With your W$SD being so high, you're definitely not calling down in the right spots either.
 
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Also for how tight you're playing, 26% WTSD is kind of low. With your W$SD being so high, you're definitely not calling down in the right spots either.
Thanks John! I am not sure that I understand this. How does my W$SD being rather high relate to me not calling down in the right spots?
 
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I see that you are considering 'position tactics' too much in your play, in fact you have make most money in the late position , and your won decrease when position strenght decrease , at the end lost more than 200 in BB.

Play more and more tight in early position and in BB adjust your play to be super tight !
 
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I just compared my stats to those from John A (April update). Yes, I am by no means close to his postflop abilities and yes, we are talking about very different limits we are playing.
But... what I found interesting is that his SB and BB numbers (SB 32/16; BB 26/13) are not that far away from mine (SB 23/17; BB 22/9) . He even cold calls way more in the BB than I do. His VPIP from the SB is the second highest spot and from BB it is par with CO.
What I am trying to say is that my VPIP/PFR stats from the blinds are most likely not the only reason for the bad results in those position but the reasons might more lie in:
1. the hands I play from those positions
2. against which opponents and
3. how I proceed with those hands post-flop.
For the time being and with my limited post-flop abilities it is certainly the best to play tighter and not get in so many questionable PF-spots.
 
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Thanks John! I am not sure that I understand this. How does my W$SD being rather high relate to me not calling down in the right spots?

What it means is that if you are calling down with only 26% of showdowns you go to, and you are making a lot of money at showdown, it means you are probably folding too often.

You are folding hands that you should be winning.

It's like if you were never told "no" when you asked out a girl. It means you aren't asking enough girls out.

If you are only ever winning the pot at showdown, you aren't calling often enough.
 
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