Good or bad raise

Gohaku94

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Hello so I am not sure about my play on the flop. I looked again and it is a spot where if it's working and everyone folds I am ok with my play and if i get re-raise i think it's a bad play. Since it can't be both what is the best way to play in the long run?Call or raise? :icon_cycl:confused:


PokerStars - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4


MP: 106.5 BB (VPIP: 11.76, PFR: 4.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 70)
MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.65, PFR: 6.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.41, Hands: 269)
CO: 42 BB (VPIP: 24.62, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 67)
BTN: 144.5 BB (VPIP: 39.39, PFR: 15.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 34)
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 106 BB (VPIP: 14.71, PFR: 7.35, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
UTG: 115.5 BB (VPIP: 23.12, PFR: 10.72, 3Bet Preflop: 2.38, Hands: 349)
UTG+1: 110 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 12.96, 3Bet Preflop: 5.00, Hands: 55)


Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB


Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 7:spade: 7:diamond:


fold, UTG+1 calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks


Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) 5:heart: 6:diamond: 4:club:
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+1 bets 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold, UTG+1 raises to 30.5 BB, fold, fold


UTG+1 wins 26 BB
 
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The 10BB re-raise is over-aggro

Hi Gohaku,

Apologies if I misread any of the data since i'm new to some of the terminology, but I think raising here is a bad idea in the long run in micro-stakes, its a different story in live poker; my reasoning is you barely have an over pair and an up and down straight draw facing a player who limped into the pot and bet 3 BB.

His cause for betting is less likely to chase away and get folds and more to try and build the pot and get paid by something like a set, a flopped straight or a two pair, either that or a huge hand like :qs4: :qd4: or better trapping pre flop, its unlikely the villain is just stone-cold bluffing here with a re-raise to effectively all-in on the flop, or is tilted with :as4: :ks4:.

Folding to a 3BB bet with :7s4: :7d4: is out of the question, so in my opinion its more profitable to simply call and try to keep the pot small, as you have a few outs against a monster (flopped set, :qc4: :qh4: through :ah4: :ac4: , 2 pair, :2h4: :3h4:) and you will also have information on the turn and from the villain's raise (granted, you've given some by calling) that could change the outcome of the hand.

Good luck on the tables! :ridinghor
 
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Maybe you saved yourself some chips. You could have just called and raised both are good, it depends on your opponents. If he is loose maybe he is raising with just a 6 or open ended draw, but in 90% of the time he is good here.
 
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I think that you’re ahead here. Villain is highly active, playing 1/3 of his hands. Coming in at UTG+1 and only calling is pretty weak. Same for button who is playing 40% of hands. I would prefer, against those stats, raising preflop with the chance to take it without a fight. It also disguises your range a bit more. Villain might he is ahead here just by hitting the six on the flop, maybe he had 67, but I doubt a made straight is reraising. I think a pp of 88+ is likely raising you preflop. The biggest concern is maybe he hit a 2 or something, but again I think that’s a call on the flop and not a reraise. I think he was playing a pair really hard trying to push you off, but you’re playing with an overpair and OESD with no likely flush draws. The tough part here is that you’re both very deep. I think you’re ahead and I think by a decent margin, but putting in 100BB on sevens is tough. Those are sometimes the plays you need to make if you want to win though, and I think you got played for not having the conviction to carry through on a medium strength hand like you had.
 
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The combination of limping pre-flop and post flop raising is strange, villain may have thought you were bluffing.
With only 77 and a straight draw you probably should try to limit the pot size. The result would often be that you will have to fold on the turn or river, unless you hit one of your outs. Keep in mind that villain might have hit a set on the flop.
 
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you had the pair and 32% for a draw. It was OK for me..
 
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For me it is still a good raise You have protected your cards and you were also on 2-opener 8s and 3s draw for a str8 u couldn't do better
 
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My gut tells me you had the best hand. I honestly might have shoved over the top. I'm no expert though.
 
Gohaku94

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Ok thank you all for your answers, somehow they are all over the place.
A conclusion might be that call or raise on the flop are both decent probably depending in the oponent type. So the worst option is to fold directly anything else is resonable.
Thank you and good luck :D
 
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it depends on stack sizes. for 100 bb it is a call. if you had 20 raise and jam
 
freddy66

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maybe wrong but.....

in :cool:my mind a good raise to protect your hand:cool:
 
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I personally like the raise because you take the aggression in the pot and it protects your hand. When you flat and an Ace peels on the turn it makes ur hand hard to play, but when you raise and they call you can put them on a range. And if they 3bet your raise you can always fold depending on the player or put it in behind with about 32% percent equity.
 
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