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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
8BB/100 over 50k hands at 2NL is a 80$ profit, so presumably you have withdrawn money. This is not really recommended, if you have any sort of ambitions to move up and eventually play for money, that matter at least a little bit. Because you have done this, you are not bankrolled for 5NL, so you should either redeposit the money, which you withdrew, or stay at 2NL.
Evan Jarvis
Legend
Platinum Level
Depends if you are willing to reload.
10 buyins is pretty aggressive bankroll management and it's a lot of volatility for your bankroll to take on.
If you're beating nl2 at 8bb then you will probably be a winner there too, but know that 10 buyin swings are fairly common and having a roll of at least $100 would give you a much better chance of staving off variance.
If you are able to reload if you get gripsed (had to drop it in there
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alexand8r
Rock Star
Silver Level
It seems to me that there are more fish and more frivolous players on NL2. In addition, most of the players on whom you have already collected statistics or defined a colored note (depending on the style of play) do not play at the limits above. It's hard to play against those you don't know. I think nl2 is a good enough limit to have fun and earn money, at higher limits you will rarely meet fish.
quick
Legend
Silver Level
It's possible OP started with less at 2NL and took that risk. But also another factor is the high rake to pot ratio at the micros. The amount of rake they paid over 50k hands is no small chunk.
That said I agree unless OP doesn't care about reloading, then yes they need more before playing higher.
JimmyBrizzy
Visionary
Silver Level
It’s a little aggressive but we’re not talking about going into personal bankruptcy if you go busto. I would say if you’re running good and feel confident take the shot. If you go down 2 buy ins drop back down to 2nl.
I’m not sure how many tables you play but you could also just pop open one 5nl table at a time with your other 2nl tables running to get a feel for it.
I’m not sure how many tables you play but you could also just pop open one 5nl table at a time with your other 2nl tables running to get a feel for it.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
This is true, but apparently OP has withdrawn some of his winnings, which could be an indication, he is actually quite busto and not able to just pop another 50$ into the account if needed. And then losing that money will actually force him to stop playing poker, until he has saved up for another deposit.
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MakTrue
Visionary
Silver Level
It seems to me that 50,000 thousand hands is still a small distance for realizing whether you are hitting the NL2 limit, and the bankroll of $ 50 is small for playing NL5
My humble opinion
mitroff
Rock Star
Silver Level
Good luck, you will definitely need it.
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fundiver199
Legend
Loyaler
I think 50k hands at 2NL is enough, and an 8BB/100 winrate is pretty good, when its Zoom. So I would definitely recommend OP to find the money for a 5NL bankroll and then move up now. 100$ or 20BI is still very aggressive, but it has a better chance of working out than 50$ or 10BI. Winrates are typically higher at regular tables, so with only 20BI I would prefer to go there to limit the risk of going broke. And then maybe move back to Zoom, when I had 150-200$.
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UkoChebuko
Rock Star
Silver Level
If you play Zoom or other "fast poker", then you can try it. And you can return , when you lose 2-3 buy ins. I can tell you about the difference between NL2 and NL5. NL2 is the lowest level. There are some people, they don't know even the rules. There are a lot of "All in apes". It is easy...At NL5 still very weak players, but there are also some weak regs. Or "reg like"...You can make a similar win rate (still will be lower), because there are less people at NL5. If you have HUD and you can use it in a good way, then NL5 is a good option. Try it...But if you play "only against the field", with this win rate (8bb at NL2), don't do it. Friendy advice. Just learn some things, practice more, you will be better one day. It is not "a shame" to play NL2. We all did...This is just a school. "Must" school...
And about the roll...50$ is enough to play NL5, but this is the minimum. An "aggro roll". Still, this not a gambling, not at all. But you must go back, then you lose max 3 buy ins, 300bb. And this 300bb "downswing" is pretty common. Like "all day, every day". You must know this, you can tilt very easily otherwise. But 50 buy ins swings are also possible, pretty rare, but possible. It is a waste of time to try to "build" $300 for NL5. And 600 for NL10...
And don't use short stack. Never!
And about the roll...50$ is enough to play NL5, but this is the minimum. An "aggro roll". Still, this not a gambling, not at all. But you must go back, then you lose max 3 buy ins, 300bb. And this 300bb "downswing" is pretty common. Like "all day, every day". You must know this, you can tilt very easily otherwise. But 50 buy ins swings are also possible, pretty rare, but possible. It is a waste of time to try to "build" $300 for NL5. And 600 for NL10...
And don't use short stack. Never
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ronn6583
Rock Star
Silver Level
You can't go to NL5 from $ 50.
For a easy, confident game, you need to have $ 180.
As a rule, at the beginning you will most likely lose buyin 6-9.
On NL5 there will be more raises and re-raises postflop, therefore there will be more chances of making a mistake.
For a easy, confident game, you need to have $ 180.
As a rule, at the beginning you will most likely lose buyin 6-9.
On NL5 there will be more raises and re-raises postflop, therefore there will be more chances of making a mistake.
